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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:06 AM
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The Annoying Sound Stores Use To Drive Youngins Away
Here's an example of that annoying noise that's supposedly being used to drive teenagers away from stores and other places where they tend to gather and formulate their plans for world domination. It has also been used in commercials. Supposedly, only people under 25 can hear the noise. For the record, our staff can hear it and we think it sounds like that ringing in your ears that happens when people are "talking about you." Annoying.
http://consumerist.com/

Teenage audio test: http://trainhorns.net/sound/

Bleah. Nasty noise.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:18 AM
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1. I'm 50 and have unusually acute hearing....
...and I heard it. It's just like the sound used by museums to keep people moving from one exhibit to the next (such as the Tut exhibition or anything involving gold and jewels).
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:19 AM
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2. 60 and nothing
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:02 AM
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62. 50 and nothing.
But in my youth I attended far too many Rock Concerts. :blush:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:05 AM
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64. Correction: When I turned-up the volume, I heard it just fine.
:shrug:
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:33 AM
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3. 40, and it was slightly painful
Maybe I had my speakers up too loud, but damn that almost hurt!
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:40 AM
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4. NOT a teenager and heard it fine
Bogus test. :shrug:
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:45 AM
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5. That's actually terrible.
It's painful for me to hear that. (And yes, I know people who have it as their ringtone and such).

It wouldn't only prevent me from loitering, it would probably prevent me from being there longer than 10 seconds. That's money they're not getting. Assholes.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:13 PM
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55. Think of what it does to the employees
Now we don't have to wonder why they're so hostile anymore.

Whoever came up with this idea needs to be locked in a room and forced to listen to Skinny Puppy for the rest of his life.
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:55 AM
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6. Can't wait to try this with my third graders since
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 07:56 AM by ChazII
we are in the middle of our unit on sound in science.

edited for spelling
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 07:58 AM
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7. 62 and worked in heavy industry all my life...i`ve heard worse
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:01 AM
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8. Maybe people over 25 with tinnitus can't hear that, but I can!
Try the following website to put a finer point on it (I use it to test my speakers!)

http://www.freemosquitoringtones.org/
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:04 AM
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10. Thank you for this information.
This will make for a better sound discrimination and the site also works with our IB communication unit.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:35 PM
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51. I made a 17KHS tone for a friend suffering from a gathering of young people
outside his house. We don't have enough police to handle non emergencies, so he wanted to use it to encourage them to move along. I haven't heard back.

I have Tinnitus and hearing loss. I can hear the 8KHS, but that's it.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:53 AM
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68. Interesting.
Edited on Sat Feb-28-09 09:56 AM by riverdeep
I heard the one for 30 and younger and I'm over 40. 24 and younger has 4 entries. There's a lot of hiss I hear in the background, I wonder if that matters any.

edit: I can also hear the sound in the OP, it's quite annoying, and when it stops playing, my ear feels irritated.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:02 AM
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9. 59 and not a peep. .
My 19 year old called it an annoying beep
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:29 AM
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11. 38 and I could not hear it.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:43 PM
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41. I'm also 38 and I can't hear it, either.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:36 AM
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12. 35. That noise is torture.
:banghead: Seriously.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:13 AM
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19. 41. Agreed. Ouch. n/t
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:43 AM
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13. Sounds like an old TV
with a high pitched whine.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:45 AM
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14. Probably not so different from what I hear 24/7 from tinnitus
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:49 AM
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17. I can relate to that.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:28 AM
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21. Oddly, even with my tinnitus I managed to hear it.
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 09:29 AM by Buns_of_Fire
Kind of a low drone overlaying the brain-eating cicadas that have been partying in my skull for the last 15 years or so. (Too much of that mind-rotting rock 'n' roll, played at earbleeding volume in my younger days, I've been told.:shrug:)

P.S. I'm 58, BTW. Rock on!
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LiberalPersona Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:21 AM
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38. That would suck
I have tinnitus but nowhere near that intrusive.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:45 AM
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15. I heard it fine and I'm 67
Even when I turned the sound most of the way down I could hear the higher pitched whine. But what I want to know is how does this affect the people who work in the stores where they ue it to keep teenagers out? I think after hearing that all day I'd be ready to kick somebody's ass, anybody, for any reason, or none at all, just because I was so pissed off having to listen to that godawful sound all day.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 08:48 AM
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16. well I wish something would drive them from the stores.
just the ones that run in packs. the others I can tolerate.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:11 AM
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18. Ugh, that sound would drive me, and I'm sure many other people with Asperger's Syndrome, to meltdown
I'll bet $100 dollars that this thing will cause Aspie and Autistic kids to have vicious temper tantrums because of sensory overload and parents will never find out why because they can't hear the noise. Assholes. :grr:
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walkaway Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:14 AM
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20. Got a sound that will get them to mow the lawn? nt
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:42 AM
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25. Hey...
:think:
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:59 AM
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30. I'd heard once that there was a certain subsonic tone...
that would cause an involuntary loosening of the sphincter. I've been looking for the plans ever since, to modify my car horn to produce that tone.

And maybe make a pocket version, too, just to be a prick next time I'm at the supermarket.:evilgrin:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:32 AM
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22. 58 and i heard it, very annoying
my ears are under 25 the rest of me feels 90.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:34 AM
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23. I heard it and I'm 39
so they'd drive me and my money away too.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:36 AM
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24. That's ok, I use Cannibal Corpse to get rid of old people.
:P
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:07 AM
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35. Hammer Smashed Face is an old favorite of mine. nt
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:48 AM
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26. I would drive me nuts until I found the plug....I'm going to be 53...
I sometimes can't hear conversations mostly due to years of loud noise, machines, guns, sirens etc. back when hearing protection was something most people didn't use properly. Low whines, hums, absolutely get my attention.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:51 AM
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27. I can hear it at age 35, but only with the volume on my computer cranked
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:51 AM
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28. 22, and I can hear it.
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 09:52 AM by originalpckelly
Of course, I'm supposed to, so I guess I'm at least normal one way. :P
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:57 AM
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29. I'll be 35 this summer and I heard it
And I wouldn't stay in a store that had it blasting - but I'm old and crotchety that way.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:00 AM
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31. If stores want to drive away teenagers they don't need to have this...
... may I suggest some classical music instead? Or Opera?

Apparently this has worked quite well too.

Mark.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:02 AM
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33. I've read that Frank Sinatra works wonders as a youth-repellent. n/t
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:38 PM
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54. unless you're my kid
she's 19 and she and her bf listen to classical a lot and sometimes opera too. weird kids.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:01 AM
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32. It's much easier to just play Frank Sinatra tunes...
...which are more likely to chase the young-uns away.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:05 AM
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34. 28 and it was painfully piercing.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:12 AM
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36. I'm over 60 and heard it when I upped the speaker.
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LiberalPersona Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 10:19 AM
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37. 29 and I can hear it quite clearly
Sounds like one of those tones they use for hearing tests.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:29 PM
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39. I'm 45...what? nt
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:33 PM
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40. 39 and I can hear it.
Ugh. That would be torture to spend more than 5 seconds listening to that. But it's kind of like some kind of electronic malfunction - I hear tones a little like that in office buildings sometimes, and it always sets my teeth on edge.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:45 PM
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42. 26 and I can hear it....
and so did my cat who just fled the room.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:48 PM
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43. I don't think it sounded like a mosquito buzzing...more like a high pitched electronic sound.
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 12:49 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
It reminds me of the sound I hear from the sidewalk when a TV is on somewhere.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:49 PM
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44. God, that made my eyes water.
x(
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:50 PM
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45. I can hear it, and I'm well beyond 25. No wonder I hate to shop.
x(

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Luna_C_06 Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:21 PM
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46. Holy crap!
I heard it and it was almost painful! :-(
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:26 PM
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47. In this town the officials thought piping Mozart throughout the area
would drive the teens away but brought more in because they dig the scene man !!!
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:29 PM
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48. I'm 25 and I'm not sure
Was it just a real high pitched noise? I thought it was supposed to sound like a mosquito. It didn't sounds like buzzing to me, but my ear hurts now...
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:30 PM
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49. Works for me
I can't hear it!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:31 PM
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50. I thought they just played Barry Manilow music
:shrug:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:16 PM
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56. Now, that would drive everybody away...
:rofl:


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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 08:59 AM
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61. Snort! (nt/)
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:35 PM
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52. Under 25 my ass! I hear it just fine.
Vile, vile noise it is too.

Someone needs an ass kicking for that noise. Blech!
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:35 PM
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53. Damn! I have tinnitus but I heard this!
Very unpleasant.
I was convinced that 28 years of rock concerts would be enough to kill my hearing but I heard it. Of course I had to turn off all other noises around me. Youngins can probably hear it with extraneous noises going on around them.
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zagging Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:21 PM
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57. 47. Left ear no, right ear yes.
If I turn my head one way or the other.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:09 PM
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58. 56 and I heard it - so that is why there is that annoying sound in some stores!
Guess what - they are driving away older customers, too. I've left businesses due to that tone.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:29 PM
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59. I'm pushing 60, have a cold with congested ears and I can hear it
But I am suddenly overwhelmed with a craving for Nacho Doritos and a coke

Seriously, most jewelery stores I have ever been in have a most painful high pitch noise I was never able to abide. Good thing I prefer hardware stores to shops with overpriced baubles.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 08:58 AM
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60. I'm 38 and can hear it. And I'd never shop in a store that was playing it...
I'd go 25 miles out of my way to avoid being exposed to that sound for more than a few seconds.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:04 AM
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63. But the kids are getting their revenge
I heard they were using these frequencies as ringtones to outwit adult teachers. Unfortunately for them, some adults retain hearing acuteness.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:15 AM
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65. Nuthin'
:shrug:
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:18 AM
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66. I'll be 40 soon and I heard it fine.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:22 AM
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67. My stepson uses that as his cell phone ringtone.
It's hard to tell if he's really on the phone or if he's just messing with you. :D

I can hear it if I put my ear up to his phone (or my PC speaker, in this case). I'm 37.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 09:55 AM
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69. I'm 49 and I heard it...........
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