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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:44 PM
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America's Stupid Health Care Debate: Canada's Successful Approach To Health Care

Weekend Edition
February 27 - March 1, 2009

Keeping Some Ideas Off the Table
America's Stupid Health Care Debate
By DAVE LINDORFF

It is a sad commentary on the pinched and strictly censored level of political discourse in this nation that any serious consideration of Canada's successful approach to health care is simply out of bounds in America. It is nothing short of absurd that even though the nation that is closest to the US geographically, culturally, linguistically and economically has, since 1973, had a system of provincially administered single-payer government-run health systems which have kept the country's health costs at about 2/3 of what they are in the US as a percentage of GDP, at the same time serving all people and (not surprisingly) achieving better health statistics than the US, no one in Washington has talked about inviting Canadian health authorities down to explain how their system works and whether it might make sense here.

There has for years been a huge ongoing propaganda campaign by US health care companies and their lobbies to denigrate Canada's system, but the big truth that they cannot deny is that it is loved by Canadians. The best evidence of this: Despite years of conservative governments in Canada, and in the various provinces, no political leader has ever tried to re-privatize health care in Canada. Clearly such an effort would be political suicide, so popular is the system there.

Surely, when President Obama assembles his panels to work out some kind of health "reform" package for the out-of-control US health care system, he should include Canadian health experts and ministers into the mix. It makes absolutely no sense to embark on a $650- billion-to-$2-trillion project without considering all the available options--including options that have a proven track record of keeping costs down, services available to all, and that delivers better health outcomes.

The truth is that every other modern country in the world has long ago figured out that you can't have cost-effective, universal health care unless the government is the paymaster, with prices set by the government. The truth too is that no country that has moved to such a single-payer system has later rejected it--a good indication that the people of these countries are satisfied with the results and with what they're getting for what they're paying.

No one would say that about the US health care system, which is failing over 50 million people completely, that is the leading cause of bankruptcy, that is making US companies non-competitive, and that sucks up over 14 percent of GDP while producing life expectancy and infant mortality figures that make some Third World countries look good.


Please read the complete article at:

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff02272009.html

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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:51 PM
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1. The only reason that makes sense to ME . . .
. . . as to why we don't have UHC is the "don't eat your own" strategem. In other words, taking insurance conglomerates out of the health care picture would be considered "stepping on your frat brother's toes"?

The current health care system hurts corporations. IT HURTS CORPORATE COMPETITIVENESS. Let's not even talk about the damage it does to us . . . yet corporations flat out refuse to implement or even consider talking about Universal Health Care.

They either really do buy the whole Reaganite "evils of Soshulized Med'cin" crap or it's all about "not eating your own". I gotta tell you, most of the reasons they do give have been proven false by miles. I'm down to this conspiratorial reason, because I got nothing else.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 02:55 PM
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2. Hats off to Tommy Douglas and Canadian Medicare!
I see a passage in there I want to paraphrase in an LTTE and in a letter to Sen. Grassley. Sadly, he will have a lot to say about what we get.

BTW - did you know that Kiefer Sutherland is Tommy Douglas' grandson?
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:21 PM
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3. What's it going to take to wake us up?!
Seriously - this is not a rhetorical question.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:26 PM
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4. A Senator Proposing Medicare for All (single-payer) would help.
Who will that Senator be?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:31 PM
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5. I can not fathom why we don't have a commission looking at every system in the world
And picking the very best aspects of each of them and combining them into a plan for us. One health care system with no insurance what so ever - taxpayer funded, Government Regulated, and no opting in or out for anyone.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:31 PM
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6. We're so enamoured with our Health Care...
that we voted Tommy Douglas, the "father of Canadian Health Care" as our Greatest Canadian.

http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/standings/index.html

Sid
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:54 PM
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7. OK, you're really in trouble now -- posting classified information.
That information is on a need-to-know basis -- and as any Republican can tell you, the American people do not need to know, in fact must not know.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 05:00 PM
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8. I would like to see an objective FAQ about Canada healthcare
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:43 PM
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9. For the weekend DU crew
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