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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:09 PM
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Whoa Nellie - the Obama Tax Cuts are kicking in with my current payroll!
I handle the payroll (processed by ADP) for my small business and looks like many of my employees are getting a 20 to 50 dollar increase in their take-home (we pay twice a month) with each paycheck. This tax cut does phase-out for really high salary people, but most working stiffs get a cut.

Remember - the GOP voted EN MASSE against this tax cut! Stick to them!

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:15 PM
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1. K&R!!!
Big time K&R - this is the kind of information that needs to be disseminated EVERYWHERE.

Thank you very much for a first-hand report from the front lines.

And what do the folks who think GOPigs are so wonderful think of this, I wonder?

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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:18 PM
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2. Is this is a cut in withholding or a tax rate reduction?

Bush 1 did a tax withholding decrease during his one term. It just ended up screwing me over at refund time.

Hopefully this is real tax rate reduction. If so, what is the new tax rates?
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:21 PM
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3. Not sure - I'm not tax guru
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204521,00.html

IR-2009-13, Feb 21, 2009

WASHINGTON ― The Internal Revenue Service today released new withholding tables that will result in more take-home pay this spring for millions of American workers.

The new tables incorporate the new Making Work Pay credit, one of the key tax provisions included in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 that became law earlier this week.

“For most taxpayers, the additional credit will automatically start showing up in their paychecks this spring,” said IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman. “Since employers and payroll companies will handle this change, people typically won’t need to take any additional action. The IRS will continue working to implement this and other provisions of the new law as quickly as possible.”

The new withholding tables, along with other instructions related to the new tax law, will be incorporated in new Publication 15-T. This publication will be posted to this Web site next week and mailed to more than 9 million employers in mid-March. The IRS asks that employers start using these new tables as soon as possible but not later than April 1. Most workers will see a boost in their take-home pay soon thereafter.

Eligible workers will get the benefit of this change without any action on their part. This means that workers don’t need to fill out a new W-4 withholding form to get the Making Work Pay credit reflected in their take-home pay. A Form W-4 will not need to be submitted for the automatic withholding change. Individuals and couples with multiple jobs may want to submit revised Form W-4 forms to ensure enough withholding is held to cover the tax for the combined income. Publication 919 provides additional guidance for tax withholding.

Available for tax years 2009 and 2010, the Making Work Pay credit is 6.2 percent of a taxpayer’s earned income with a maximum credit of $800 for a married couple filing a joint return and $400 for other taxpayers, but it is phased out for higher income taxpayers. Most workers will qualify for the maximum credit. Because the credit is refundable (people can get it even if they owe no tax), most low-income workers will also qualify for the full credit.

Though all eligible taxpayers will need to claim the credit when they file their 2009 income tax return next year, the benefit will generally be spread out over the paychecks they receive beginning this spring and continue until the end of the year.

Many higher-income taxpayers will see little or no change in their take-home pay. That’s because the Making Work Pay credit is phased out for a married couple filing a joint return whose modified adjusted gross income (AGI) is between $150,000 and $190,000 and other taxpayers whose modified AGI is between $75,000 and $95,000.

Taxpayers will not get a separate, special check mailed to them from the IRS like last year’s economic stimulus payment.

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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:27 PM
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4. Thanks. I think that answered my question
Its looks like its similar to what we got last year, but its spread out over all your paychecks across the year.

So its more of a bonus, as opposed to a rate decrease.

Not bad. I'll take it!
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:29 PM
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5. I got $23 more a pay (we also get paid twice a month)
Which is a helluva lot more than the Bush tax cut I got in 2001. That one came to about 2 Happy Meals. With this tax cut I could get a decent steak dinner each pay.
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:29 PM
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6. Republican budget proposal
If I heard right, one republican proposal would be to let these middle class tax cuts to expire after 2 years. And I believe the Blue Puke Demos are also on board with this. After the average working stiff finally gets a break, although small, these filthy bums want to remove it. Go figure.:wtf:
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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:39 PM
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7. According to the IRS publication. This is only for 2009 & 2010
So yes it does expire after 2 years as its enacted now.

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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 01:49 PM
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8. I got a "raise" -- courtesy of Obama!
Edited on Thu Mar-26-09 02:07 PM by Qutzupalotl
Me and the Mrs.

Between the two of us, that's an extra $116 a month.

We're all right, so I plan to up my food bank donations and spend the rest to stimulate the economy. :)

I kinda wish they had extended benefits for the unemployed though, instead of giving so much to the working folks, but WTF do I know. I'm not complaining.

On edit: I just heard they're spending 13% more on food stamps, which will help, so never mind.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 02:08 PM
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9. Are you as happy as Wall Street execs are with their windfalls? nt
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 02:34 PM
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11. No
Edited on Thu Mar-26-09 02:38 PM by Qutzupalotl
Why do you ask?


Edit: On second thought, I'm not receiving death threats, so maybe I am happier.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 02:39 PM
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12. cute ! and I guess the absence of death threats is a kind of unquantifiable bonus.
Edited on Thu Mar-26-09 02:40 PM by terisan
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 04:15 PM
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16. It's a quality of life thing.
Let's see... rich but in fear for my life, or comfortable and safe. Yeah, I'm happier.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 02:11 PM
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10. Woo hoo, I'm self employed so...
oh shit. :mad:
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 02:41 PM
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13. ...imagine getting goverment to take a chance on your business-I;d settle for a microloan.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 03:04 PM
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14. You still get the tax credit
You just need to start taking it out of your estimated quarterly payments. Check the IRS website to see how to make the calculations.

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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 03:37 PM
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15. My wife says big changes are on the way
She works payroll for a very large non-profit corp., and though she doesn't yet know who it'll benefit the most, she says there's a big overhaul coming soon.
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