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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:36 PM
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Many Conservatives Don't Think Colbert is Joking
:spray:

http://hij.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/14/2/212

The Irony of Satire

Political Ideology and the Motivation to See What You Want to See in The Colbert Report
Heather L. LaMarre

The Ohio State University, HLaMarre@gmail.com

Kristen D. Landreville

The Ohio State University

Michael A. Beam

The Ohio State University


This study investigated biased message processing of political satire in The Colbert Report and the influence of political ideology on perceptions of Stephen Colbert. Results indicate that political ideology influences biased processing of ambiguous political messages and source in late-night comedy. Using data from an experiment (N = 332), we found that individual-level political ideology significantly predicted perceptions of Colbert's political ideology. Additionally, there was no significant difference between the groups in thinking Colbert was funny, but conservatives were more likely to report that Colbert only pretends to be joking and genuinely meant what he said while liberals were more likely to report that Colbert used satire and was not serious when offering political statements. Conservatism also significantly predicted perceptions that Colbert disliked liberalism. Finally, a post hoc analysis revealed that perceptions of Colbert's political opinions fully mediated the relationship between political ideology and individual-level opinion.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:41 PM
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1. Only pretending to be joking. Let's think about that for a second.
Why would someone pretend to be joking?
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:53 AM
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34. Perhaps he's only joking that he's pretending to be joking
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:09 AM
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52. Wait, I know... he's only joking that he's kidding about pretending that he's not serious.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 12:36 PM
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46. At least they know he's (pretending to be) joking.
:eyes:
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:42 PM
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2. Meaning (1) conservative are dumb, (2) Colbert is a genius luring fans from both sides, or (3) both?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:44 PM
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5. One is correct
and Colbert is better at goofing on people than anyone else I know.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:42 PM
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25. They did invite him to do the press correspondence dinner
how'd that go? I'm guessing they're that dumb.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:43 PM
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3. Satire is lost on the ignorant. nt
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 12:32 PM
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44. Which amply proves that there's a significant portion of the population
out walkin' around without walkin'-around sense. Or as John Stuart Mill put it, "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative."

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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:43 PM
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4. I bet he eats this shit up!
:rofl:

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:26 PM
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24. I am sure he will mention it sometime this week. n/t
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:44 PM
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6. Poe's Law
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:45 PM
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7. That is hilarious
I don't even think Stephen could be as tickled about that as I am...what a bunch of morans. :rofl:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:46 PM
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8. they are use to fox that any nonbeliever would laugh at, they buy into. n/t
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:46 PM
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9. Ok, that's just sad. nt
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:49 PM
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10. I guess Colbert getting his start on The Daily Show went right over their heads

Conservatives are so dumb.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:58 PM
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12. And that they never saw his performance at the White House dinner
The annual dinner for journalists (forget what they call it).

They probably wouldn't have enjoyed all the outraged faces as much as I did. :rofl:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:23 PM
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23. White House Correspondents' Dinner, 2006 ...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 12:34 PM
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45. They just didn't GET his performance at the Press Corps dinner--the scary part is,
neither did a big bunch of the press in the audience.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 05:23 PM
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15. Don't ya see
That's why he left. Jon was to liberal for him. :rofl: Man these assholes are dumber than we thought.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:53 PM
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11. My Kool-Aid-swilling RW cousin believes Colbert's joking.
He's as O'Rielly/Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck-lovin' as they come.

He even gave my dad a copy of the Colbert Report DVD for his birthday.
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 05:03 PM
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14. Now that's funny
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:21 PM
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22. Just out of curiosity, what did you cousin think of this ...


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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:47 PM
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26. I dunno.
Not likely to find out either. He hasn't talked to me since Easter '08.

We started talking politics and within a few minutes, he was frothing at the mouth. He couldn't put a sentence together. He stormed out of the room shouting, "Pelosi! Media Matters! Liberals! Huffington Post!" Took him about an hour to calm down and return.

He was unarmed at the time, so I took quiet satisfaction in the moment.

Full disclosure: He was a cop until he got pushed off a porch while on duty. Now he works as a security guard at an inner city high school.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 04:59 PM
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13. Why is this surprising, They proudly called themselves Tea baggers
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 05:40 PM
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16. Years ago when people told me that "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" tasted like butter, I knew
that people could be made to believe anything.

Conservatives are dumber than rocks.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 05:43 PM
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17. The whole idea of Colbert was to mock the "independents" mistaken as republicans
Such as O'reilly and Lou Dobbs.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:06 PM
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18. The Word
should be a hint to the conservatives - but maybe they can't read or something.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:46 PM
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27. Nope. They're just stupid.
Desperate for Supporters, DeLay Turns to Stephen Colbert
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/24/delay-colbert/

What's funny is they never follow St. Raygun's favorite saying, "Trust. But verify."
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:10 AM
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32. delete
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 02:11 AM by KT2000
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:10 AM
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33. Stupid is right
Didn't know about Delay - what an idiot!
Thanks for the link.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:12 PM
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19. this report is satire, right?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:14 PM
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20. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! n/t
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 06:15 PM
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21. He's doing Limbaugh's schtick the way it ought to be done. nt
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:55 PM
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28. I knew one of them!
Before I fled to DU I used to hang out on a site of mostly dummies. And one young man there (who was having a personal anti-environmental WAR with ME.. that's what you'll get on a site with like 100 people :mad:) made a couple of comments about how he liked Colbert and thought it was cool of Colbert to hang around those Democrats and still be himself :rofl:
That was over 2 years ago now.. right before I quit that site.
I wonder if the idiot every figured it out.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 07:59 PM
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29. Morans!
:rofl:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 08:09 PM
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30. Good lord! The phrase "box of rocks" comes to mind.
Sadly, it'd be a disservice to the sedimentary, igneous, and metamorphic well-grounded parts of the planet to liken them to the sedentary, ignorant, and endomorph-skulled flotsam of humanity.


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 08:25 PM
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31. Very well said. nt
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 06:40 AM
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35. And "Strangers With Candy" was a real after school special too.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 06:44 AM
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36. To be fair, there are times when I wonder...
For instance, he often mocks religion, even Catholicism. Yet I heard him say in an interview with Terry Gross that he is a practicing Catholic. So it is possible that his is playing the part at times.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 11:42 AM
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38. He's not a liberal activist; he's a comedian trying to make his show a success
His show makes fun of liberals too. Conservatives happen to be easier targets--their pomposity is much less subtle than ours. By the same token, as sincere a Catholic as he seems to be, he doesn't have a problem with making fun of Catholicism as long as it's funny.

His humor isn't a bludgeon for attacking viewpoints he disagrees with. If that was what he was doing, his show would be strident & boring.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 11:49 AM
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40. Catholicism is his sacred cow
You will see it in every interview that touches on the subject.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 11:55 AM
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41. He reminds me of a progressive Catholic. I love SC. He is brilliant.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 12:49 PM
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50. He keeps his opinions to himself, except to say that he is NOT a Republican
"On his wall is a 1972 Nixon campaign poster that, he says, represents the awakening of his political consciousness. "That's when I became aware of the abuse of power," he says. "I became a true believer. I'm the last of 11 kids; my brothers and sisters, with just two exceptions, are all Republicans, and they always used to say to me, 'Why are you such a pinko?' '' "


http://www.jerriblank.com/colbert_nytimes.html
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 12:55 PM
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51. I'm the youngest of eleven kids too. Although all but one are liberals.
Loves me the SC.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:34 AM
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37. Amazing, after all this time. I suppose they think Ricky Gervais
is a really bad British manager of a paper company.

Steven is so obvious in his humor to try to make it easy for his audience. You really have to have blinders on not to get it. But then they've had blinders on for 8 years, so....
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recoveringrepublican Donating Member (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 11:59 AM
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42. You think they have every seen The Office UK? They probably think it's a spin off! nt
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:09 AM
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54. good point!
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 11:44 AM
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39. I thought he was a libertarian.
I read that somewhere that his real life affiliation.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 12:45 PM
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49. Maybe. He keeps his opinions to himself, mostly, but has said that he's the "pinko" of his family
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 12:47 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
and that he doesnt have a problem with Republicans, just their policies.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 12:01 PM
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43. still?!?!?!?
Ok, I can understand the confusion in the 1st month or so of his show but its been what - 2 years now????? Wow these conservatives just continue to prove how stupid they are!!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 12:38 PM
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47. Reprehensible Liar Ronald Reagan's Newspeak Legacy
:toast:
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 12:44 PM
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48. Idiocy has a well-known conservative bias. n/t
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:57 AM
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53. well shit
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 01:57 AM by DearAbby
now I am confused...he just pretends to be joking, but he is really serious..no no that's not it... he is seriously joking and pretending to be....no no that isn't it...he pretends to be joking liberal, pretending to be a conservative, joking to be...ahhhh shit!

Took me years to figure out Victor/Victoria!


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:12 AM
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55. Billions and billions...
= The number of ways you could correctly end the sentence ""Many Conservatives Don't Think..."
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:14 AM
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56. So, when do they declare The War On Bears
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 09:50 AM
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57. Republicans are humor challanged. They think it is a real knee slapper when
Limbaugh makes fun of homeless people or a 12 year old girl whose father is the President but get bent out of shape when Colbert hoists Republicans on their pious petards.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:57 AM
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58. Here's my theory on conservatives and humor:
Cognitive dissonance has an inverse relationship with ability to perceive satire. Think about it.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:02 PM
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59. I just think of Rudyard Kipling
"And never the twain shall meet."
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