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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 12:34 AM
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Prop 8 and a significant portion of the voting populace...
I listen to a popular local radio morning talk show and the host made the point that while he is pro gay marraige the reason he voted for Prop 8 was because he felt that the judicial branch took too heavy handed a role in legalizing gay marraige and went directly against the will of the voters

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In other words if a vote came up that was a straight "should CA allow gays to marry?" then he would vote yes. As it stood he voted, in his view, against the judicial role that started the whole thing.

Do you think that there is a significant portion of the voting population who are similiar to this radio host? Are there people who would vote yes to gay marraige but will only do so in a manner that is linked to a straight vote and not for or against a judicial ruling.

I'm gonna have to look at this one later, its early and Im not sure if it makes sense.

(Folks from Reno and Sacramento may already know the show I am talking about)
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 12:58 AM
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1. I think that's a crock of shit- right up there with "I think it should be left to the states"
Edited on Tue May-26-09 01:01 AM by imdjh
That's what the anti-gay folks have said when they are trying to sound reasonable and nonreligious. "I think it should be left up to the states." Meanwhile they are calling for an amendment to the US constitution. Meanwhile, when states to legalize gay marriage- they go to court, they go to referendum, they spend millions and millions and mobilize armies of shitheads and professional propagandists.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 01:01 AM
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2. Constitutional issues should be decided by the courts
Edited on Tue May-26-09 01:01 AM by Sebastian Doyle
Therefore, the California state court acted appropriately last year, as have all other state courts that have ruled in favor of marriage equality.

Also, civil rights should NEVER be left to popular vote. Certainly not the repealing of existing civil rights, which was the case with Prop H8.

And out of state interests, such as a church based in Utah, should not have been allowed to have any influence whatsoever in the matter.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 01:05 AM
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3. Gotta wonder what kind of baseball fan he is
"I don't like the umpiring, so I'm rooting against a ball club I like."




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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 01:09 AM
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4. No ...

I think a not insignificant proportion of the population that aren't overt in their bigotry might claim that as a rationalization. A significant proportion of those (as in, almost all) have an utter lack of understanding of the role of the judiciary.

Complaints about an activist court are almost always rationalizations for opposition to an aspect of the issue involved, and that remains common regardless of political ideology.

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