From "health care reform" to corporate welfare for the health insurance companies

[ck4829]

It looks like the only thing that will come out of the health reform debate is mandatory health insurance and "tort reform".

No word yet on how this will stop people who already have health insurance from going bankrupt from medical treatments.

Also no word yet on how this will stop people from being denied treatments from insurance companies.

How did this happen?

[fascisthunter]

1. a government forcing people to pay corporations is fascism

it's no wonder you never hear anyone in the media even mutter the word.

[SammyWinstonJack]

4. So will employers stop giving their employees health care benefits? That's bound to piss off a lot

Americans. :yoiks:

[fascisthunter]

5. of course they will... in the interest of making a profit

all expenses offset by American taxpayers. We all work for the rich... they own us.

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. Well that might get the angry mobs in the street, where nothing else has.

[SammyWinstonJack]

2. I'd like to know that too.

How did this happen?

[cdsilv]

3. The only good politician is the one who when bought....

stays bought. Can't remember who said this but it does appear to be true.

[unblock]

7. simon cameron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Cameron

[PATRICK]

8. Dems learned weak lessons, the Insurers are

fighting for their lives(well, not lives so much as the money pie).

A bad sign of a poor lesson learned was not going to the AMA with deals about torts BEFORE getting undercut and in effect undercutting their committment to health care if they went ahead and shot their bolt of miserable opposition out of the blue.

The Bush administration immediately rode rough shod all over the stupid "bi-partisan" blue nose coalition- with ease since no such Repug could ever commit to opposing their party in any way and no such Dem had any stomach for a fight. Obama empowers this discredited entity that has lost all public support over and above the claims of restoring legislative process(even as he begins hammering at that process sometimes on behalf of his tyrannical predecessor).

I think, economical dogma aside, the choice has favored businesses threatened with survival(or accountability) in the attempt to stave off a further economic collapse and total shift of all responsibilities onto a fairly unready, unrepresentative and infiltrated government. That the decision makers don't characterize their actions this way seems very likely though more ideologically left governments than this have compromised values for tilting toward the current gods of the buck.

On the other hand the insurance company is focused and fully empowered by the MSM over decades. They need to push back as far as possible, even making things worse and more profitable for themselves as an irrational yet real position of strength. At the least they want to endure Obama and begin betraying him for another sympathetic corporate stooge. Something also I don't think the people in the WH understand.

[femrap]

9. Dems are complicit and take

lots of money from health industry. It's all Kabuki theater...they already know that the working person and unemployed are fucked. Next they'll let out a virus to kill a bunch of us. That'll shut us up and keep us inside like caged rabbits.