I'm hoping this makes some sense

[madokie]

I was just watching a segment on msnbc about the car companies and they showed a clip of a GM assembly line and I seen a guy tweak a door on one of the suv's coming down the line like a rebuilder will do when after he gets a vehicle all back together after a wreck and the door is sagging a tad or a bit too high by putting a block by the offending hinge and shutting the door on it so as to bend the attachments so the door fits the hole better. That might explain why I see so many older gm suv's and trucks with sagging doors. Hell the attachments were bent at the factory, why can't they bolt the doors on right the first time, OOPs gm glues the door hinges on so maybe thats why they have to tweak the attachments. In any case I wish I hadn't seen that clip now.

splchk

[earthboundmisfit]

1. I donlt know about the other models, but Camaros had horrible door problems

The doors were so damn long & heavy, I guess - Trans Ams and Firebirds had the same problem, starting I think in '80 or so... I had an '80 Camaro which I loved but jeebus, the doors! And I couldn't afford to get the one on the driver's side fixed, so had to climb in from the passenger side - always classy looking, yee-haw! :) Car ran DAMN fine though!!!

[madokie]

2. When one has to bend something to make it fit to begin with

something is wrong, fix that, not keep tweaking the damn doors as they come down the line like this guy was doing. I worked in construction the last 20 or so years and worked out of both ford and gm trucks and all the gm trucks would start to be falling apart, doors sagging partly, I suspect, because of what I had just seen and partly because the hinges were not tough enough to begin with. I never seen a ford truck that had sagging doors or worn out hinge pins.

I'm saying this pointing out some of the whys that gm is in such bad shape today.

[earthboundmisfit]

3. Yup, good point -

A contributing factor, to be sure.