Curtland1015
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:30 PM
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Does the left try to be too accommodating to the right? |
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It seems like our elected officials are so much more willing to "compromise" and see the other sides point of view.
I know most politicians run under some kind of promise of "reaching out across the aisle" and being willing to work with the other side. The problem is, it's only the Dems that actually ever seem to do it. So if a Repig wins, it's 100% Repig agenda. Their bills get passed, their agendas get looked after, they don't give a flying fig about what the other side wants.
If a Dem wins, it's maybe 60% Dem? Seems like they're always worried about including everyone, and being "fair" to the right. Which on paper sounds great and really upholds the spirit of Government our forefathers intended... except that we Dems just keep getting screwed because of it.
Just sitting here thinking about it is cheesing me off!
Oh well. Anywho... thoughts?
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:33 PM
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1. file this under..."DUH!" |
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:33 PM
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And where does it get us? NOWHERE.
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:34 PM
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Liberal is debating a Conservative.
Conservative says "You know I hate you and everything you stand for. You are ruining this country, and frankly should be tried for treason and then shot."
Liberal says "Well, I don't completely agree with that assessment."
On the other hand, part of what made me more of a liberal is the invective I see coming from Ann Coulter and others.
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:34 PM
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4. We do it because it's not about "them"... |
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...we are and have to be the grownups, even when they're not.
And, occasionally, they have ideas that actually are workable--see clock, broken...
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:37 PM
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"And, occasionally, they have ideas that actually are workable--see clock, broken..."
You do understand that a broken clock gets to be right for a very specific reason that has to do with the basic structure of a clock and that this analogy does not apply to more complicated systems, right?
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:35 PM
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5. The center right works with the far right to screw the peasants |
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while enriching their corporate masters.
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:35 PM
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6. I personally don't but that's just how I roll. |
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Edited on Tue Jul-07-09 02:36 PM by YOY
I got tired of debating facts a long fucking time ago.
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:38 PM
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8. what left? there's only like 10 Senators more liberal than Francisco Franco |
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it only looks like a "left" because there's two parties, so the least right-wing one is assumed to be the "left" one: using external criteria, most Dems are center-right (free trade, adoration for the markets, some compromise with government safeguards, pro-war) so, technically, they're not "accommodating": they're precisely where they want to be! (i.e., just between Clinton and Reagan, or nearby Nixon)
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Tue Jul-07-09 03:03 PM
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18. +1 'left out' that is where the left is. |
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:39 PM
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:39 PM
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10. YES!!!!!!!!!!! NO FRICKIN' SHIT!!!!!!! Yeah, I'm yelling. I wish I could yell INTO some Dem ears. |
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Because if there's one thing they can always be counted on to do - it's CAVE to the bad guys.
And that Just. Has. To. STOP. If the Dems keep on being nice and trying to see the bad guy's point of view, and accommodate them when their ideas and policies led our nation (and our world) to the brink of ruin, we'll lose the leadership and the majority status that WE all worked so hard last year to secure for them. And the disappointment that will result may be the kind of setback from which we may never be able to recover. They HAVE TO KICK ASS, and kick ass NOW!!!
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:39 PM
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11. Does a hooker try to accomodate the John? |
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:40 PM
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If the Republicans had managed to get a filibuster-proof majority under King George, social security would have been a memory and grandma's retirement would have been flushed down the Wall Street toilet.
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:41 PM
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13. It doesn't matter what the left tries. |
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The right runs roughshod over the left no matter what.
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:42 PM
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14. Ever wonder WHY they think we're appeasers? |
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:42 PM
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15. First of all, our elected officials aren't of the "left." They are centerists at best, |
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And virtually all of them are beholden to corporations and corporate money. There are rare exceptions, like Kucinich, but the vast majority fall into this category.
But yes, they are far too accommodating to the right, in fact they accommodate the right even when it hurts the country.
But like I said, they're not leftists. True leftists, like Kucinich and others don't accommodate, they're not beholden to corporate America, and they do what is best for the people of this country. A real shame that there aren't more of them in office, but hey, that's how the game is currently rigged.
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Tue Jul-07-09 02:46 PM
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16. Elected officials - absolutely. Everyone else - no. |
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Tue Jul-07-09 03:01 PM
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17. It has passed accomodation--Appeasement better describes their actions. |
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Tue Jul-07-09 03:05 PM
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19. Depends who you're calling 'left' |
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I'm on the left and I'm not the least bit interested in accommodating the election-stealing, government-corrupting, war-mongering, police-state-happy fucks on the right.
Meanwhile, almost no one in any position of power (DK excepted) can be accurately described as being on the left.
Rather, the stealth-right is accommodating the open-right.
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Tue Jul-07-09 03:07 PM
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20. Well, yes. But I don't think that's something that can be fixed or |
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that should be. Part of what makes us Democrats is a desire for greater tolerance and understanding. How do we turn our backs to that?
What we need, I think, is just a more assertive, rather than the GOP's aggressive, stance. We're fortunate to have a president who understands very well how to frame the major issues of the day. We need to feel it's ok to be strong in our beliefs, while continuing to be tolerant and respectful. The GOP isn't saddled with that second part. They see any sign of tolerance as weakness and a betrayal of the cause.
In the long run, I think our view wins.
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