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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:15 PM
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Poll question: What is your view on equal marriage?
Edited on Tue Jul-07-09 03:27 PM by Tiggeroshii
Just another silly poll.

Trying to see how DU thinks of gay marriage. One of those things where I'll expect one thing, and hopefully I don't get the other. Let me get background information too...
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:17 PM
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1. ....
I support gay marriage and am gay
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:30 PM
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16. I'm actually just curious as to what the gay and lesbian population is here.
Which is why I made the choices that way.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:17 PM
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2. What a poll to ask DU!
Seriously who here is against Gay Marraige? (Yes, I know some will show up and claim something but I have not seen what they are claiming...I just haven't seen anyone saying that they do not support the idea.)
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:18 PM
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6. Yeah that's what I think too.
Looks like it's pretty true so far according to the poll...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:18 PM
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3. I voted Option 1 because it's closest (and most feasible) to my opinion.
Personally, I think all marriages should be commuted to civil unions, which should be permissible to all Americans (including GLBTs, obviously). Marriage is then a non-legal status that can be conferred by churches if they so please in the manner of their choosing. The government shouldn't be in the business of regulating a religious rite or sacrament, nor should they be conferring benefits to those that choose to participate.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:18 PM
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4. This OP would rock if it was about Gay Shotgun Weddings
Are there actually people here on DU who DON'T support gay marriage?

:shrug:
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:20 PM
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7. Not so far according to the poll...
Which is good, I think.
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:18 PM
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5. I oppose all government performed/sanctioned marriage actually
But if the government is going to marry strait people they should marry gay people as well.

Bryant
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:58 PM
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27. I agree with that
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:21 PM
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8. Oh yeah. And the poll's not about guns cause if I posted another gun poll inGD I'll prolly get shot.
Edited on Tue Jul-07-09 03:22 PM by Tiggeroshii
=D
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:22 PM
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9. This poll doesn't really say or mean anything
because it makes no distinction between just saying you support gay marriage and having actually done anything to support the legalization of gay marriage.

A lot of people say they support gay marriage who, when there are real chances to do something, stand in the way complaining about LGBT people and tactics or else just do nothing. Gay marriage, they'll quickly tell you, is a good idea, but they're obviously not invested in it in any real or practical way.

Measuring real support has to go beyond simple polls.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:23 PM
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10. Say these people vote against prop 8 or a similar amendment...
Edited on Tue Jul-07-09 03:24 PM by Tiggeroshii
Would their supposed support still mean nothing?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:32 PM
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17. Another poll: What's your view on Afghani and Pakistani Weddings? Should they be bombed?
Do they count as human beings or are the participants made up of some other material? Are they to be celebrated or pre-labeled as collateral damage? Are they better or worse than same-sex marriages? Which group is more dangerous to Americans (aka straight Westerners)?

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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:36 PM
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20. You wanna post that or should I?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:55 PM
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25. Hey, go for it! My feeling is that people don't support Afghani/Pakistani weddings either.
Or at least the ones that get in the way of our bombs. My point is that DU has become such a hotbed of New Conservativism since Obama was elected, that who knows what the temperature here is.

:)
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:32 PM
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18. Well that depends on semantics
Nobody - not the most ardent full time activist 0 can actually do something to substantively aid progress towards ALL causes worth supporting. Global warming, choice, poverty reduction, freedom of and from religion, healthcare, women's equality, disarmament, racial equality, pay equity, the homeless, veterans, labor rights, freedom of speech, neighborhood revitalization, food safety, drug safety, progressive taxation, welfare, violence prevention. Not one of those (and I've probably missed as many as I've listed) that most here don't support and not one of us who can substantively do anything meaningful to support ALL of them. Support can most certainly include support of an idea, and a willingness to vote or contribute should the opportunity arise of legal action. All the above need, and have, dedicated activists, but nobody can be a dedicated activist for them all.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:25 PM
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11. How about a category for "I do not support same-sex marriage but can't vote cuz I'm tombstoned"?
There are people who are anti same-sex marriage but won't vote because they'll be TS'd since its against DU policy to be "against" same-sex marriage. Why? Well, because there isn't any redeemable defense of "one man/one woman" marriage (unless you're a Democratic politician, in which you are assumed to be "for" same-sex marriage but strategically lying to win elections.)

By the way, "same-sex marriage" and "equal marriage" are the proper terms. Gay marriage just like "gay sex" are at best inaccurate and at worst conjure stereotypes manufactured by straight people's imaginations. Intersexed and transgendered people are also excluded from "man/woman only" marriage by law. It's not just a "gay" issue.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:28 PM
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14. Dully noted, thanks!
Also. As I was editing the choices, I realized something:

How horribly messed up would it be for me to switch the choices(like from support, to don't support)?

And how common do you think it is that people do this?

:shrug:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:28 PM
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12. It's in the Bill of Rights
"Pursuit of Happiness"--if you find happiness in marriage to someone of the same gender, so be it. We're all "pursuing happiness" so why are there those who would deny it to others?
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:49 PM
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23. No, it's in the Declaration of Independence. n/m
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:57 PM
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26. Okay, okay, I knew it was one of the "Big Three"
I'm not referring to GM, Ford, or Chrysler...
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 04:10 PM
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30. Unfortunately, it's the one that has no legal force whatever.
Too bad, really. There's a lot of really good stuff in the DOI. And I can even admit this as a loyal subject of HM The Queen.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:28 PM
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13. I've been saying "marriage equality"
that's what it's about: equality, not something "special" or "new".
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:29 PM
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15. I believe everyone should be able to marry the person they love.
Simple, really.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:33 PM
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19. I support civil unions for all
Including adult blood relatives who choose to live together in a household.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:38 PM
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21. Other: This poll will be locked soon.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:46 PM
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22. i figure that gay couples should have the right to be miserable like the rest of us.
hehe. jk.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 03:52 PM
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24. I support equal marriage
And I am straight.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 04:04 PM
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28. I don't have an adequate rebuttal to the "polygamy will be next" argument.
Equal protection is equal protection.

The only way out of the dilemma is to take the state out of the marriage sanctioning business entirely and whatsoever, including one-man-one-woman.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 04:06 PM
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29. My thoughts on equal marriage are such as like these.
I am for opposite marriage, same marriage, kind of like marriage, whatever makes you happy. I love my freedom and yours too.
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