Michael Fucking Jackson's deathapalooza has lasted twice as long as Ronald Fucking Reagan's

[Sebastian Doyle]

And Reagan's was 5 days longer than necessary. THAT is why I'm sick of it.

Funeral in a fucking stadium. Non stop TV coverage? This shit is ridiculous.

At least Michael Jackson could afford to buy the pharmaceuticals that killed him. Now why don't we get this bullshit off the TV and demand the media whores talk about REAL Health Care Reform.

[Inspired]

1. The only thing this stops them from talking about is Sarah Palin.

Don't kid yourself.

[backscatter712]

6. You've got to admire Sarah Palin's talent...

She's so good at stealing the spotlight that she actually interrupted Michael Jackson's Deathapalooza!

That's fucking impressive.

[kenfrequed]

43. Hmm

Actually it was well timed. There would be just enough time for the "WTF is Palin doing this week" Without the embarassing, complex, and damning questions about what scandal she was trying to avoid when she quit.

[SmileyRose]

56. snort

:loveya: :yourock: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[NeedleCast]

2. 18

[marmar]

3. I don't know what's more annyoing, the endless coverage or DUers bitching about the endless coverage

:eyes:

[jefferson_dem]

10. I vote for the latter.

Some folks relish the opportunity ... to bitch.

[Johonny]

50. I think it's the endless bitching about the people endlessly

bitching. And the cycle turns again...

[Sukie]

88. So that would be you then?

Thought so.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

4. And yet you post about it!

If you don't like it don't talk about! Go read a book.

[WillieW]

32. totally agree with you on this.

[redqueen]

49. No shit.

Posting here so I will remember to come back and fill up my ignore list later. :)

[calico1]

86. I agree. My ignore list has gotten a lot bigger the past few

days. :-(

[steelmania75]

5. I feel your pain, but the media doesn't care about average Americans and their problems

although they pretend to care by using Twitter, Youtube, and Facebook.

[Norwood]

7. Wait Michael Jackson died!?!?! I had no idea!!!!!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[KingFlorez]

8. Turn off the tv then

It's that simple.

[WillieW]

33. I totally agree. TURN OFF THE TV!!!

[PSzymeczek]

72. I did.

Left the house all day.

[leftstreet]

9. But Ronald Reagan had no catalogue to dust off

Not much profit to be made off the old coot's death

[Sebastian Doyle]

25. You must not have watched the coverage

They dusted off all of his old "hits" that week. Like "Shining City On A Hill", or "Mr. Gorbachev, Tear Down That Wall", though unfortunately they didn't play "Ketchup Is A Vegetable" or "I've Just Signed Legislation Outlawing Russia Forever (We Begin Bombing In 5 Minutes)".

[Lost-in-FL]

11. It could be worse. At least is not Dick Cheney's funeral. nt

[YOY]

15. Look at it this way...he'll save us some money and effort...only needing two pallbearers and all.

[TheCowsCameHome]

18. Why would that be worse?

[Lost-in-FL]

29. Now you got me thinking.

:think:

Of course, I would go to that funeral just to make sure he is really dead.

[smirkymonkey]

92. Wait, that would be worse?

How is that?

[nomorenomore08]

96. I thought he was already dead. UNdead, rather...

:P

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

12. Show some respect....

After all Michael Jackson won the Cold War. :evilgrin:

[mamaleah]

13. It's our celebrity obssessed culture.

Many other very valuable members of society give way more than a celebrity. teachers, mentors...they give so much hope and time. They touch a lot of people too, and fail to get a full funeralpalooza.

It's our celebrity crazed culture that demands we hold a celebrity at the same level of esteem, or higher, than other extremely important members of society.

[PSzymeczek]

73. See the shiny celebrity death

Forget you don't have health care.

[Common Sense Party]

14. All because Reagan couldn't moonwalk...

nt

[hedgehog]

19. Michael was a better singer, too.

[Mrs. Overall]

31. But both of them liked their monkeys:

[cascadiance]

42. Falling in love with some chimps can be dangerous!

[Mrs. Overall]

47. Indeed:

[Catherine Vincent]

16. When RR's memorial was on the tubes that week, I simply turned off my tv

Common sense.

[ColbertWatcher]

40. Don't forget that Saint Reagan's death happened the same week as ...

... the anniversary of RFK's death.

The GOP-controlled media seemed only able to cover one of those stories then too.

[earth mom]

17. Yep, it's beyond ridiculous.

:crazy:

[uberblonde]

20. Yeah, but...

The music was a lot better.

[lamp_shade]

21. It was a beautiful memorial.

[whatchamacallit]

22. Maybe it has something to do with the "God Gene"

:shrug: The whole thing is lost on me...

[baldguy]

23. Michael Jackson did more positive things for the world.

Comparing the two, who deserves it more?

[Sebastian Doyle]

30. I'm not comparing him to Reagan

I'm just saying when a dead President gets a week of coverage - and that was condemned as over the top at the time, how does a pop singer rate nearly two weeks.

Yeah, the guy sold millions of records. Yeah he made history. Fine. But two fucking weeks of non stop death coverage??

The only person in history who deserved that much mourning would have ruined the whole thing by rising from the dead on the third day. Good thing the Romans didn't invent cable news!

[baldguy]

35. Reagan killed thousands of people, and set the stage for Il Busho who killed millions.

We'll be dealing with the effects of their crimes for generations.

In contrast, Jackson brought a little beauty into people's lives.

Again, who deserves to be mourned more?

[doublethink]

45. You're watching too much TV ..... that could be part of the problem ....

Michael was a humanitarian ..... for those who care to look into his humanitarian activities .... the most charitable supporter ever .... by a pop star ... Okay you don't think his life warrants the media coverage ..... whatever ..... turn it off. Peace.

[Sebastian Doyle]

53. Actually, I haven't turned the TV on all day.

I'm sick of it, just from all the coverage HERE. And that goddamn useless "AP radio news" which has about as much right to be carried on a "liberal" radio station as Rush Limpballs does.

[dflprincess]

69. From the time JFK died to the end of his graveside services was just over 72 hours

and there were a lot of world leaders who managed to rearrange their schedules to get to D.C. for the funeral. Nearly two weeks for a singer seems a tad overdone.

[Ex Lurker]

76. neither n/t

[liberal N proud]

24. All these idol worshipers don't realize how saturated America is

in this idolatry.

[Mrs. Overall]

26. Jeez, I wish you would stop beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel about it.

Your thread title is one of my favorites.

[hunter]

27. Seems about right to me.

Michael Jackson had a lot more talent. He was most certainly "A" list.

Reagan was some cheap character actor his entire life. He wasn't quite sure what kind of T.V. President he was playing toward the end, but the gig lasted eight years, which is pretty good work in Hollywood, even if some crazy stalker fan shoots you. Publicity is publicity, it made all the tabloids! Nancy's astrologer said it would be a bad day, but what the hell, the nurses were cute and everyone treated him like a king.

[Individualist]

28. It was a deification

I watched out of curiosity and couldn't believe some of the things I heard. "Greatest entertainer of all time"? "Nothing strange" about him?

Jesus H. God on a pogo stick!

[zbdent]

34. that may be true ... but people LIKED Michael J ...

we were TOLD everybody but the lunatic left loved Reagan ... constantly, by the liberal media ...

[ColbertWatcher]

38. Good point. n/t

[-..__...]

44. Even Hitler feels the pain of Jackos passing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELyTBXzfQJ8

[Pacifist Patriot]

36. Are you sure he could afford them?

:hide:

[Hepburn]

37. So don't watch or listen, OK?

:eyes:

That seems to be the solution to your problem. Imagine that ~~ you did not think to ignore it.

[bigwillq]

39. But....but...you posted a thread about it!

Congrats! The party continues!!! :bounce:

[nichomachus]

41. It's only been five months now, give him a break

Oh, wait a minute, wrong thread.

[doublethink]

46. PS ....... FUCK RONALD REAGAN !! GEESH .....

[Fire1]

62. DITTO!!!!! n/t

[Life Long Dem]

48. I love it!

I wrote CNN to tell them to extend the MJ tribute a week!!!

:applause:

[greguganus]

51. I can deal with Jackson coverage more than I can Palin coverage. n/t

[Sebastian Doyle]

59. Can't argue that one.

Sarah Palin ceased to have any news value around 8:00 PM, Pacific time on 11/04/08.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

52. Wah Wah Wah.

So much crying here lately.

[Wednesdays]

54. Don't worry, it's about one-third over now. nt

We still have the "unofficial biographies," memorial videos and made-for-tv movies yet to go. That's after the re-cap of the summary of the aftermath of the funeral on all the M$M channels.

Once that's over, things will settle down and Neverland will become an ordinary billion-dollar theme park.

[zorahopkins]

55. Nationalize The New Channels!

We all know, really, why there is such wall-to-wall coverage of Michael Jackson's death and funeral and investigation into his death and retrospectives on Michael Jackson, etc., etc.

It's because IT SELLS.

All of those networks covering Michael Jackson and the funeral are for-profit BUSINESSES.

They MUST make a PROFIT.

And, in order to do that, they will ALWAYS ALWAYS look to put things on the air that will SELL ADVERTIZING.

This whole thing could end if we had the courage to NATIONALIZE our news channels -- CNN, MSNBC, HLN, FOX -- every one of them.

THEN -- AND ONLY THEN -- we could have serious discussions about things lilke health care, climate change, and others.

Until then, it will be "news" that SELLS.

[Sebastian Doyle]

60. As I said in another thread on this subject, I watched the BBC world news on my local PBS station

They mentioned Michael Jackson's funeral only in the last 30 seconds. I also saw the very beginning of Jim Lehrer's report. He didn't go directly to the Deathaplooza either. Didn't think to check CBC, but I'm guessing they didn't go off the deep end either (now if it had been a hockey player, who knows....)

Point is, there is a very obvious difference in how the public broadcasting outlets covered this, compared to the corporate whores.

[Karenina]

57. GOOD!

[Sebastian Doyle]

58. If you're going to applaud media presstitution

You might want to change your signature, as the failure to report THAT genuine news story was another glaring example of their failures.

[endarkenment]

81. What I like is that Jackson DOMINATES Reagan. That is great.

[donheld]

61. But your hate will live on

Sad :

[Sebastian Doyle]

66. My hate for what?

Michael Jackson? Nope.

The Whore Media? Oh HELL yeah. :grr:

[Judi Lynn]

63. So who would have watched the tv coverage of Ronald Reagan's funeral, anyway? Democrats here.

Why worry if Ronald Reagan didn't get as much coverage, while dead? He had far too much coverage while he was alive, considering how stupid he was.

[Sebastian Doyle]

67. Democrats here apparently watched ALL of Reagan's funerals

http://www.democraticunderground.com/searchresults.html?q=Ronald+Reagan+Funeral&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&sa=Search&domains=democraticunderground.com&client=pub-7805397860504090&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A11&hl=en

[mzmolly]

64. Good! Michael Jackson had a postive impact on society at large.

Reagan, not so much.

[Critters2]

91. No, he didn't. He didn't have any impact. Hasn't even produced

any music that anyone listened to in like 20 years. Gave minimally to charity. Hid out in his strange compound, slept with little boys (said so publicly), and lived off the Beatles' music.

[mzmolly]

93. Well you're entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts

From WIKI:

In 2000, Jackson was listed in the book of Guinness World Records for his support of 39 charities, more than any other entertainer or personality.<115> At the time, Jackson was waiting for the licenses to the masters of his albums to revert to him; this allowed him to promote his old material how he liked and prevented Sony from getting a cut of the profit. Jackson expected this to occur early in the new millennium, however, due to the fine print and various clauses in the contract, this revert date is still many years away. Jackson began an investigation, and it emerged that the attorney who represented the singer in the deal was also representing Sony, creating a conflict of interest.<112> Jackson was also concerned about another conflict of interest. For a number of years, Sony had been pushing to buy all of Jackson's share in their music catalog venture. If Jackson's career or financial situation were to deteriorate, he would have to sell his catalog. Thus, Sony had something to gain from Jackson's career failing.<116> Jackson was able to use these conflicts as leverage to exit his contract early.<112> Just before the release of Invincible (on October 30, 2001) , Jackson informed the head of Sony Music Entertainment, Tommy Mottola, that he was leaving Sony.<112> As a result, all singles releases, video shootings and promotions concerning the Invincible album were canceled. Jackson made allegations in July 2002 that Mottola was a "devil" and a "racist" who did not support his African-American artists, using them merely for his own personal gain.<112> He charged that Mottola had called his colleague Irv Gotti a "fat nigger".<117> Sony disputed claims that they had failed to promote Invincible with sufficient energy, maintaining that Jackson refused to tour in the US.<118>

Six years after his last studio album and after spending much of the late 1990s out of the public eye, Jackson released Invincible in October 2001 to much anticipation. To help promote the album, a special 30th Anniversary celebration at Madison Square Garden occurred in September 2001 to mark the singer's 30th year as a solo artist. Jackson appeared onstage alongside his brothers for the first time since 1984.<119> The show also featured performances by Mýa, Usher, Whitney Houston, 'N Sync, and Slash, among other artists.<30> In the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks, Jackson helped organize the United We Stand: What More Can I Give benefit concert at RFK Stadium in Washington, D.C. The concert was aired on October 21, 2001, and included performances from dozens of major artists, including Jackson, who performed his song "What More Can I Give" as the finale.<116> Invincible was a commercial success, debuting atop the charts in 13 countries and going on to sell approximately 10 million copies worldwide. It received double-platinum certification in the US.<23><79><116> However, the sales for Invincible were notably low compared to his previous releases, due in part to a diminishing pop music industry, the lack of promotion, no supporting world tour and the label dispute.<116> The album spawned three singles, "You Rock My World", "Cry" and "Butterflies", the latter without a music video.

As to him sleeping with young boys, I've done a bit of research and watched the unedited Bashir interviews where he indicated he slept on the floor, in a sleeping bag vs. in the same bed. The boy in question, confirmed this.

I'm not going to defend him against allegations I have no way of verifying or not, but I will set the record straight on that which I can.

Edited to add Michael Jacksons impact on our culture transcended his music. I don't know how old you are, but most of us 40 somethings can attest to that as, the Rev. Al Sharpton did at the memorial service.

[omega minimo]

65. Best redundant MJ hatin' redeemed by topical issue OP of the day.

[proud2BlibKansan]

68. Most insensitive OP ever

[Sebastian Doyle]

82. Not by a long shot.

Were you here during the Rick Warren bullshit, for example?

[Toucano]

70. As well it should.

People need these moments.

Stop being insensitive.

[donheld]

71. Did anyone hold a gun/sword/etc to your head and make you watch?

I loved the guy but only watched about 15 minutes of the Michael Jackson coverage total.

[democracy1st]

74. dude get a freakin life you've already accepted the media that ur bashing

I guarantee you that this corp media will be around longer than anyone here. Corp own both parties,so don't freakin act like they're going to change.

[juajen]

75. Frankly, I'm glad. I don't particularly like Ronald Regan.

Well, I did like him personally, just not as President.

[Sebastian Doyle]

83. I didn't like the bastard either, but that's irrelevant.

It's already been posted up above that JFK got an entire 72 hours coverage from Dallas to the funeral. And he was a good President.

My point about Reagan is that the media whores went completely overboard with his funeral, and gave it a full week of coverage. At the time it was condemned as over the top ridiculousness, and rightly so. Including on this very board.

Yet a pop singer's death gets TWICE the amount of insanity, and everybody's fine with that.

Come to think of it, Tim Russert had as much overexposure as Reagan did, because he was one of their own. And they bestowed far more sainthood on him than he deserved, for that matter. (though he was better than Douchebag Gregory, I'll give him that much)

[HarvardMed]

77. In the media's defense you're not forced to watch or follow any news that you don't care about n/t

[EFerrari]

78. Who do you have to be to compare Michael Jackson to that old felon.

Holy cow.

[frustrated_lefty]

79. The melodrama does get tiring.

[endarkenment]

80. good

[Kber]

84. Well, MJ had a better play list.

[Control-Z]

85. So you think Ronnie

should have gotten more coverage than MJ?

[ShadowLiberal]

87. Well you know, hollywood celebrities > former presidents according to the media

I've said it before, it's really sad and shows just how bad our media has become when Jackson's death gets more coverage then the death of former presidents Reagan and Ford combined.

Seriously, when Reagan & Ford died sure they talked about it, but they didn't go on and on and talk about nothing else for 4 days in a row in all the evening news shows.

You'd think that least one news organization would have woken up after the first day and realized "maybe if we cover something other then Jackson we'll get the highest ratings of the night, we can just throw a Jackson story in at the end of the news broadcast that actually talks about anything new in the Jackson story".

[EFerrari]

89. When that criminal Reagan died, they went on and on for a WEEK.

And it was a full week of airbrushed b#llshit, not the kind of discussion Jackson has been getting.

[alfredo]

90. At least MJ did something for the poor Raygun hated the poor.

[PretzelWarrior]

94. so you mean this one made the greatest page before unrec?

awwww.....unrec...why you hate us and our cool topical discussions?

[TexasObserver]

95. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours