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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 11:42 AM
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G-8 Nations Fail on Climate Change - Did you really think a Climate Catastrophe
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 11:53 AM by denem
would overly worry the haves and have mores? It's been too late for years. Exxon Economic Eugenics. They'll do fine - hey they might pop a cork to celebrate. Expect Copenhagen to be a farce and a fraud.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 11:45 AM
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1. Every new study of permafrost methane lowers the temperature change needed...
to hit the runaway tipping point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MozcU7woNNQ
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 11:52 AM
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2. The climate scientists know it. Governments saying little to perpetuate their SHAM.
If you know it's been too late for years now, why put your economy in the way. The challenge for the US and other nations is to make green energy profitable and export the hell out of it.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 11:58 AM
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3. Fuck profits.
So, the fate of civilization and a good portion of life on earth is dependent upon some asshole's margin?

This situation is well beyond the capitalists system, which has brought it on in the first place.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 12:25 PM
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6. No, the fate of civilization is sealed.
The train has left the station. Once a feedback loop is established it moves on it's own. If the US or anyone else wants to commit to Sham targets the least they can do is provide green collar jobs.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:16 PM
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10. I don't think it's sealed
But we're getting uncomfortably close. Since there seems to be very little leadership on the issue, it probably means that we *will* pass the point of no return for civilization. But I don't think that our fate is sealed.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 12:18 PM
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5. the fate of humanity should not be dictated by profits for the wealthy
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 12:28 PM
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7. The fate of the wealthy is not the fate of humanity.
Green industry could provide countless jobs as the planet runs down. It's the least irresponsible thing to do. But we've already fallen off the cliff.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 12:12 PM
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4. They should be worried.
Most of them live in cities and know little to nothing about nature. In short, they are going to die in droves.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 12:30 PM
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8. Oh, I'm sure they have planned for that.
Hell, they were planning to get through a nuclear war
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 12:54 PM
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9. Their plans will fail
The only thing people will take as pay (at some point in this catastrophe) is food. Growing food will become a very chancy business that not even the "Masters of the Universe" will be able to control. They simply won't have the food necessary overall, though I'm sure some will get lucky.

They're just as screwed as everyone else --perhaps more so.
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