IF The Economy Doesn't Turn Around By November, 2011, Palin WILL Be Elected President

[WeDidIt]

Take that one to the bank. The Republicans are insane enough to actually nominate her ass.

Her only chance of winning, though, is for the economy to still be fucked.

This explains why the GOP will be against a public option for health care. A public option for health care will take some of the pressure off employers to provide healthcare, thus increasing their bottom line, thus increasing their ability to employ, thus inbcreasing the purchasing power of the U.S. middle class, thus improving the economy.

And that circle would continue.

The GOP will put up as many roadblocks as possible to ANYTHING that helps the economy because they know their only chance to instill the snowbilly from Wasilla is for the economy to still be fucked two and one half years from now.

[blue_onyx]

1. No she won't

She won't even win the Republican nomination. If the GOP actually looks they could win, they are not throwing away that chance by nominating her.

[WeDidIt]

21. She has a 72% approval rating in the GOP

She's miles ahead of any other potential nominee.

And they throw their base the bones their base demands.

[Lex]

33. Yeah but her negatives are very high among voters in general.

nt

[WeDidIt]

36. Only a subset of voters in general vote in GOP primaries

Only those who are Republican.

And they love her.

[Lex]

44. Fine, if she gets the GOP nomination. But she'll lose in the general.

nt

[WeDidIt]

49. If the economy turns around, you're right

That sort of show shy it's important to stay oin the blue dogs to get Obama's agenda through.

[lpbk2713]

43. 72% of 28% of the voters won't get it done.

No one will want to vote for a quitter no matter how they package her.

[WeDidIt]

51. Id the economy is in the tank, it doesn't matter who runs against the incumbent

They win.

[trueblue2007]

42. Sarah Palin doesn't have a CHANCE to win the presidency

I just feel we will find out how crazy she really is during the next couple of years.

[DJ13]

2. Obama doesnt need the economy to completely turn around

But he DOES need to show the average person he's fighting for them, that they are more important than AIG or Goldman Sachs or AETNA to him.

Im afraid he isnt yet on that path.

[Cant trust em]

4. It's a very convoluted argument

to say that we're fighting for the average person by supporting AIG, et al.

[kestrel91316]

3. She doesn't know that Africa is a CONTINENT. She doesn't know

the meaning of "lame duck". She's the biggest bimbo this side of Homer.

They can go ahead and run her. But she's unelectable.

[Blue_In_AK]

19. She doesn't know the difference between $2 million,

the cost she claims the state has incurred investigating ethics complaints against her, and $296,000, the cost actually reported by the state. How is she going to improve the economy?

[Cant trust em]

5. I'd be more concerned about a Romney type.

He might have won the primary last year if the economy were the top issue last spring.

[WeDidIt]

22. Romney could win if the economy has turned around

It would be damned tough, but he could still win it even if the economy turns around.

If unemployment is in double digits and credit is still frozen up, it doesn't matter who the GOP runs, that person wins.

The American polity has a short memory and is unforgiving when it comes to teh economy.

[PassingFair]

38. Repugs will NEVER nominate a Morman.

The base is too numerous.

Those crazy fundies control
who gets the nod.

[Cant trust em]

45. Maybe not Romney, but another MBA president type.

The CEO of the country could really play well if the economy is still weak.

[PassingFair]

52. Yeah! Look how great the LAST MBA did with our economy!

I think the suckers would vote for Palin
in a heartbeat.

I think she's gearing up to do things
"her way", and anyone who was STUPID
enough to vote for BUSH, will vote for her.

She blames everyone but herself for her
colossal failure.

She is stupid and ambitious, a perfect
combination for a republican candidate.

[endarkenment]

67. But they could nominate a moron. Interesting, huh?

[Chulanowa]

6. Even then she has no chance

Palin was, is, and always will be a sideshow. The Republicans are nowhere close to nominating a woman as president, much less a stupid one. Frankly Newt is more likely to be something to be concerned over.

[WeDidIt]

Double Digit Unemployment + Credit Still Frozen And sliding GDP =

it doen't amtter who teh fuck the GOP nominates, they win.

Unless that turns aroudn by 2011, Obama loses.

It's always about the economy.

[Oregone]

7. Hillary was the front runner in 2004

Come on now. Its just media fodder now.

[droidamus2]

8. Don't think so

Why would anybody think if President Obama couldn't fix the economy that some dimwit like Palin would have any chance at all of making a difference. I know the koolaid drinking segment of the Republican party might buy into that idea but I can't see anybody else do anything but laugh at the idea.

[WeDidIt]

25. The public throws out the president when the economy is bad

It doesn't matter at all who the fuck goes up against a president when the economy is in freefall.

[myrna minx]

9. Sarah? No way. Pawlenty? Perhaps. n/t

[Echo In Light]

10. Nope...they wouldn't even dare attempt to steal it for her as occurred w/Bushco. Twice.

[Speck Tater]

11. Since the human race is doomed to extinction anyway,

(between runaway global warming and economic collapse) we might as well go out laughing our asses off at the stupidity that made extinction inevitable. What better evidence of the ultimate in stupidity than "President Palin"?

[Echo In Light]

15. Ha..that's the Gallows Humor spirit! As soon as she's declared "winner" the nuke balloons arise

Something right out of Dr Strangelove

[emulatorloo]

12. She is a fundy whackjob who is a hot head and knows nothing about anything

So if they nominate her she still has no chance. Romney-type is more of a threat.

[MercutioATC]

13. It won't...but still, no.

The GOP would be fools to nominate her.

That said, shed wouldn't win even if she WAS the GOP candidate.


She's just too batshit crazy for too many people to stomach.

[Vincardog]

14. saying "Palin WILL Be Elected President" demonstrates the kind of magical belief that empowers

rePIGlickers. Keep on repeating that $hiat if it makes you and them feel better.

[bluestateguy]

16. It will and she won't

Unemployment will still be at 8-9%, but credit will be unfrozen and GDP will be growing again.

DO NOT underestimate Obama's campaign organization and his ability to raise money, which puts the Bushes and the Clintons to shame.

[global1]

47. Every Dem I Talk To That Supported Obama (His Ability To Raise Money).....

is now holding on to any further donations to the Dem Party including Obama until the Dems get some balls and start making good on Obama's campaign promises. No real and strong 'public option' in healthcare reform - NO MORE MONEY. No getting rid of DADT - NO MORE MONEY. No standing up to the Repugs and using their 60 seat majority in the Senate that we gave them - NO MORE MONEY.

Get the picture?

The American People bought into the Yes We Can & Change You Can Believe In ----- it is now put up or shut up time.

A monster was created in 2008. The American People saw that they could get involved - donate small sums of money - and use their vote to change the nightmare of the previous 8 years under BushCo. If they don't see the changes that they worked and paid for happening they know that they can effect change and will look for candidates that will come through for them.

It won't be Palin. Won't be the Repugs in general - they blew their chance. I believe that the American People will look to Progressive candidates that haven't been sullied by the system - and begin to support them.

[endarkenment]

17. She will lose in a landslide worse that LBJ v Goldwater.

She might carry Alaska.

[WeDidIt]

34. Only if the economy has turned around

and if the economy ahs turned around AND the price of oil goes up, she wouldn't even carry Alaska.

But with a 72% approval rating in the GOP, I think the nomination is hers to lose.

[Zynx]

37. Which it will have at least started to do well in advance of November of 2011.

Even very pessimistic forecasts have it starting to grow well before then.

[WeDidIt]

48. Which is why we have to watch the GOP members of Congress

and stay on the asses of the Blue Dogs.

Teh gOP will do EVERYTHING they can to hinder the growth of the economy, and will try to lobby the blue dogs into joining their efforts.

Perhaps the ebst example I can think of is the effort to kill a public plan option in healthcare reform.

[endarkenment]

61. Uh no - especially if the economy sucks.

People might be enamored of the queen of quit and her entire fabulous episodic drama show, but when they are fearful of their future they will be quite averse to putting an obvious idjit in charge. Even stupid people want smart people in charge.

[breadandwine]

18. When Palin was asked what papers she reads, she couldn't come up with ONE.

Not:

She couldn't read one.


She couldn't MENTION one.


She has not even HEARD of the major papers in this country.

[sabra]

20. "Take that one to the bank" you mean Goldman Sachs - since no other banks will exist by then...

:sarcasm:

[WeDidIt]

28. LOL

Good one!

[Egnever]

23. LOL

Well remind me never to look to you for political predictions.

[WeDidIt]

30. I predicted in Novemeber 2004 that Obama would be our next president.

If in November of 2011 unemployment is not in double digits, credit is flowing, and GDP is growing, it doesn't matter who the GOP runs, Obama will win.

[endarkenment]

64. Obama is not an erratic dunderhead.

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

24. Not a chance. nt

[The_Commonist]

26. No she won't.

She doesn't actually want to serve.
Anything.
She's just in it for the money.
Kinda like Giuliani was.
He never intended to win, he was just in it to increase his speaking fees.
Same with her...

[blue_onyx]

59. I think she does want to win the Presidency

Not because she wants to serve her country but for ego and a legacy has the first female president.

[Lex]

27. Delusional.

nt

[WeDidIt]

32. That's what they told me in '99 when I said George Bush would be president n/t

[Lex]

46. "they" were stupid

and "they" is like "some people say"

[WeDidIt]

55. "They" were members of the AOL Political message boards (of both parties)

Pre-DU days.

[endarkenment]

62. Georgie was running against peace and prosperity.

bad example. try again.

[Ex Lurker]

29. she won't be the nominee. But Obama's electoral future does ride on the economy

we knew that going in. If it turns around, or at least shows signs of it, he gets reelected. If not, he's a one termer.

[WeDidIt]

31. She has a 72% approval rating amongst Republicans

No other potential GOP presidential nominee comes close.

The mouthbreathers lover her.

[endarkenment]

63. She will lose every major primary and depart early if she manages to

even get to the starting gate.

I actually hope she does do well in the republican primaries. Good for us, bad for them.

[Zynx]

35. The odds that the economy is still contracting in 2011 are quite low.

practically zero in fact. That would be contraction almost as long as the Great Depression.

[WeDidIt]

40. Agreed, but this serves to demonstrate that the fortunes of the Democratic Party

are tied directly to the economy.

[Zynx]

70. Of course. That's been true for every political party since the 19th century and modern competitive

elections everywhere in the world. This isn't some groundbreaking revelation.

[Burma Jones]

39. No, but I'd watch out for Huckabee

[seabeyond]

41. bullshit. take that to the bank.

[HughBeaumont]

50. Right, so the logical idea to CURE what ails the economy . . .

. . . is to elect, AGAIN, the party almost solely responsible for screwing it up almost beyond repair for 28 years.

I mean, COME on. Name a successful economic track record that involved Republican presidents at the helm since 1970.

The modern GOP presidential pool has not a single economic or social moderate among them. Americans realize following the "Reaganite path to success" will lead you to a sea of liquid waste.

At least I HOPE they do. By and large, the voters are slow learners, but this would be the sub-stupor of ALL slowness if they trust the "borrow-and-waste" party to make things better after their . .. oh so grandiose three-decade track record.

[WeDidIt]

58. The collective memory of the American polity is measured in weeks, not months

Let alone years.

[Romulox]

53. I don't agree about Palin, but I smell trouble in 2010 and 2012.

"Change" not only won't work as a slogan in 2012, it will be a dreadfully effective slogan for the Republicans, if the the present course is maintained...

[kjackson227]

54. I don't think Palin will be elected president, but I do believe that if...

public option isn't passed (by September of this year) the Dems will be SCREWED.

[Buns_of_Fire]

56. They can nominate her ass all they want.

But I would hope that the majority of the American electorate would realize that they'd be voting for the rest of her, too. (Not that I'm going to bet the farm on the intelligence of the American electorate anytime soon.)

That said, if the economy hasn't shown some signs of a serious recovery by then, I might actually rate it as being a toss-up. And I agree that the rebubbalickins are probably going to do everything they can between now and then to make damned sure that the economy doesn't show any signs of a serious recovery.

[azmouse]

57. There are things I fear. Palin in 2012 is not one of them.

[earth mom]

60. Obama better get busy then.

But that said, I don't think Palin has a snowballs chance in hell.

Lots of people voted AGAINST her in 2008.

No doubt that will happen again.

[spin]

65. It's reasonable that the economy will be much better in 2011...

and if it's worse a Republican will win the Presidency.

A severe recession doesn't end overnight, but it does end.

A recession that would continue until 2011 would doom his hopes of a second term. If the recession continues until the midterm elections the Republicans will probably gain back a lot of seats in the Congress.

All I can say is be patient. I expect a turn around early next year.

[RainDog]

66. Independents don't like her, democrats don't like her. the republican base is shrinking

republicans have come out against her since her Iquitarod moment.

she will be destroyed by the record of her own remarks in a republican primary.

the "not insane" republicans will not have her on the ticket because she would be a disaster. republicans with $$ want Romney or a moderate like Powell.

I sincerely doubt that Palin will ever hold public office again. I expect to see her raking in dough on fox news in the near future.

[didact]

68. Nope

never happen

[Fire Walk With Me]

69. Obama has already saved the economy from truly dire circumstances...

In "Fahrenheit 9/11", an economist notes that the Arabs have 1 trillion dollars in the US economy, which they could freeze or remove, causing a major event...then note that BushCo tossed more than a trillion at Custer Battles, Haliburton, and others, attempted to steal Social Security and give it to wall street, then at the end, gave wall street and CEOs and banks a trillion anyway. That's at least two trillion dollars accounted for (as gone). Add the attack upon the World Trade Center, which caused a severe blip in the economy, and you "get" the BushCo agenda.

They wanted to tip the US into economic disaster, so that they, having resources, could then rebuild it into something pleasing to themselves and their OPEC friends. They came very, very close to succeeding.

Obama has headed off the worst of it, and is fixing what remains, and closing up some of the loopholes used to create it. Even though a television reporter named this "the worst recession since the Great Depression", it is a love tap compared to the body-slam Bush set up. We are incredibly lucky to have merely a recession, no matter how bad.

That the Republicans CREATED the problem of course makes no matter to their attempting to use it (and caused it in the first place) to tear down the Democrats (just as Enron caused a phony problem to oust California's governor)won't stop people from knowing who was behind it, why, and to actually fix it over the next several years.

I think that even though things are bleak, must remain bleak for a while, and even upon looking up, become something more streamlined and sane versus what has been before, it is not going to cause people to suddenly embrace those who have created it. Obama is smarter than that, the Republicans are losing power and being seen for what they are and do, and we are sick of what they are and what they do.

We'll shout it as long as is required, if not, just as we have been doing. Cheers.

[Javaman]

71. Flamebait. nt