Arizona GOP state senator Sylvia Allen : Earth is 6,000 years old

[RedEarth]

Transcript:

I can't say enough how it's time that we get beyond and start focusing on this technology we have and move forward into the future so that our grandchildren can have the same lifestyle we have.

This Earth's been hear 6,000 years -- and I know I'm going on and on and I'll shut up -- it's been here 6,000 years, long before anybody had environmental laws, and somehow it hasn't been done away with.

We need to get the uranium here in Arizona so this state can get the money from it and the revenues from it. It can be done safely and you'll never even know the mine was there when they're done.

So I am for this.

.......video......

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/8/751272/-Arizona-GOP-state-senator:-Earth-is-6,000-years-old!

[redqueen]

1. This stuff should be used during elections.

No reason to mock them for their 'beliefs'... simply exposing them should be enough.

[blm]

2. and it's flat as a pancake, too, Sylvia....

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[onehandle]

3. She's lying. My 6125th birthday is next month.

The earth was here when I was a kid and I will not let her lie stand.

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. *snarf*

[KamaAina]

4. Palin/Allen 2012: Dumb and Dumberer!!

:dunce: :dunce:

[Kerrytravelers]

6. I think I finally have this whole 6,000 years meme figured out. They mean in Dog Years.

They're still wrong, but they're getting closer. :shrug:

[WeDidIt]

7. Like, the earth has been here 4.54 billion years

and the climate has changed numnerous times during that time period.

It's all there in the geological record. More recent climate change can be demonstrated via Antarctic Ice Core samples.

And people wonder why I think Palin could be elected president.

[gratuitous]

15. That geological record? Just God playing pranks on us

God's such a kidder, that whole geological record and carbon dating phenomenon and all the rest is just window dressing to gull the foolish. Only the tuned-in, wholly Christian Bible-believing folks like Ms. Allen know the Real Truth as revealed by God. So there!

[yellowcanine]

8. How can you live in Arizona and think the earth is only 6.000 yrs old?

Look at all the dang layers in the Grand Canyon, lady. They had to be laid down, layer by layer, undergo lithification, and then be worn down by the Colorado River, layer by layer.

[Mariana]

12. The Flood did all that, of course.

The wearing down, at least. The earth was created with those layers already in place. Every feature of the Grand Canyon can be explained by Creationism. There is othing whatsoever that suggests that the earth is older than 6000 years.

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See? Wasn't that easy? That's how you live in Arizona and think the earth is only 6000 years old. It's an act of will.

[charlie]

18. Best fundie explanation I've heard

is Kent Hovind's reason for the dearth of dinosaurs.

In Biblical days everybody lived a long time. Reptiles continue growing for as long as they live. Today, reptiles don't live long. Therefore, dinosaurs are still here, they're just not big anymore. If your pet lizard lived long enough, he'd be as big as a city bus. In other words, a dinosaur.

[mtnester]

21. Here is what I heard

"If God wanted us to know about the dinosaurs, he would have told us about them...it is not for us to know"

[charlie]

22. Yeah, but Kent gets to pretend he's being "scientific"

It's a distinction many of them crave for some reason.

[sakabatou]

27. You should check out this series by Thunderf00t

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=AC3481305829426D

[charlie]

28. I love Thunderf00t

His shamings of Venomfangx were epic. And chickenshit Ray Comfort running from a debate, ostensibly because he wants $100K to go to Dawkin's foundation as a requisite, was a beautiful farce.

[sakabatou]

29. I also like DonExodus and AaronRa

[charlie]

31. Those guys I don't know

I'll check 'em out. I don't follow the atheist/theist dustups too regularly, I just happen to know Thunderf00t because he rose to the top of the heap... and because I did know VenomfangX, and TF00t was the perfect counter to that idiot, calm and implacable.

[sakabatou]

32. Too bad VFX got deleted because of Islamic users saying his stuff was

"hate speech."

[charlie]

34. Lol

The roving Muslim hit squads who were going to kill his family... TWICE! Too fucking much...

The bottom line is the brat lied. Often. To everybody, including his supporters. His dishonesty got him tangled in so many public brouhahas, even his parents got sick of it. And that was really the end of VenomfangX, when his folks commandeered his site and put up notice that they didn't like what he was doing and were shutting it down.

But he's not actually gone, the little attention hound can't stay away...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wajId83g4XU

...and he still can't stop lying.

[theHandpuppet]

33. You're joking me, right?

Who is this Kent idiot?

[charlie]

35. Dr Dino!

The proprietor of the original dinosaur/creation museum in Florida, currently in prison for wanton (and I do mean fuck-you-come-and-get-me-coppers wanton) tax evasion.

[sakabatou]

36. You never heard of Kent Hovind: tax fraud?

[theHandpuppet]

37. Nope.

But I guess the old saying "ignorance is bliss" was true in this case.

[sakabatou]

26. And for some fundies

The canyon was "carved," all 300 or so miles, in about 5 minutes (Venom Fang X).

[yellowcanine]

40. Ah yes, "Creation with apparent age". Also explains the belly buttons on Adam and Eve.

And of course the fossils in each and every one of those layers. Actually the only defensible position for a Young Earther to take, imo. Of course once you go down that route, who is to say that the earth wasn't created last week?

[old mark]

23. How can you live in Arizona and think the earth is 6000 years old?

Be very stupid.
Be a RW "religious" person.
Be a conservative Republican.
Be very stupid.


and...

Be very stupid.

mark

[Alexander]

9. This is what happens when you have low property taxes.

The students grow up to be dumber than a bag of hammers.

Exhibit A: Arizona.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. Sylvia should get a new watch...her's is about 4 1/2 billion years slow.

[charlie]

11. One thing I always hear from these yahoos

is that carbon dating is only accurate to 50,000 years. It never occurs to them that's an admission the earth is 8 times older than they claim.

[spanone]

13. you'd think you would need at least a grade school education to become a state senator

guess not

[malaise]

43. Yep the earth's been

HEAR :rofl:

I mean forget the ignorance of the 6000 year old earth - just deal with the hear and she is disqualified.

[MountainLaurel]

14. Relevant reading suggestion

Right now I'm in the middle of "Flock of Dodos: Behind Modern Creationism, Intelligent Design, and the Easter Bunny"

http://www.amazon.com/Flock-Dodos-Behind-Creationism-Intelligent/dp/0978721306/ref=cm_cr_dp_orig_subj

It's funny as hell but will scare you too.

[BlooInBloo]

16. The downside of democracy. People tend to vote for those as stupid as they themselves are.

[Egnever]

17. We need to use technology! but I dont really believe in science!

Does he not understand the conflicting ideas in that statement?

[Johonny]

38. no conflict

you can clearly use technology without believing in science. If you couldn't crap like this would not be so easy to say.

[RainDog]

19. why are such stupid fucks elected to office in this nation?

honestly.

it is terrifying that such idiots have any power over anyone.

[armyowalgreens]

20. Fuck me...I need to get the hell out of this shithole.

[Alexander]

39. Amen.

[LeftinOH]

24. All that beautiful exposed geology in AZ -and the stupid ass still doesn't understand it.

[sakabatou]

25. The stupid! IT BURNS!

[AntiFascist]

30. Why can't these people just prepare for the Rapture....

and stop trying to govern the rest of us?

[malaise]

41. This Earth's been

hear 6,000 years.

I here you ignoramus...only 6000 years?

She's a 100% Freeper - hear, hear!!!!

[Jakes Progress]

42. The Morans. They're winning. nt

[jpak]

44. KO made a good point last night - re: uranium series dating

Ms. Allen wants to mine uranium to fuel nucular power plants.

The reason uranium is used for nucular fuel is because it's fissionable.

Uranium is fissionable due to the properties of its nucleus.

Those same properties determine uranium's decay rate.

That decay rate is measureable and has been determined repeatedly.

That decay rate is very slow - the half-life of 238U is 4.47 billion years, U235 is 704 million years - and is used by geologists to date the formation of ancient rocks and meteorites - i.e. to determine the age of the Earth's formation.

Ms. Allen can't have it both ways

Checkmate creationist dumbasses