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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:41 PM
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Jeb Bush: "Obama would not have gotten elected if he'd let us in on his secret plan"

http://www.esquire.com/features/jeb-bush-interview-0809

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Why has the party gotten so unpopular?

I don't think there's any seismic shift. The Democrats have won on tactics. Barack Obama would not have gotten elected if he'd let us in on his secret plan prior to the election. He would not have gotten elected if he'd said, "My idea is to create a $1.8 trillion deficit for the next fiscal year. My idea is to spend $750 billion (the president's budget estimate puts this figure at $630 billion) over the next ten years on a government-sponsored, government-subsidized health-care policy. My idea is to create a massive cap-and-trade system (based on the idea) that CO2 is (a) pollutant and we need to tax it in a massive way to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions." Those ideas, which are now embedded in his budget, and the ideas in the stimulus package, weren't central in his campaign. In fact, he basically won the tax debate, which is breathtaking if you think about it. Cutting taxes is generally considered a center-right idea, not a center-left or left idea. He made it appear like McCain was going to raise taxes, which was unfair, but there was no response back. When there was an ideological component, it was generally centrist or even center-right. Had he said what he was going to do as a candidate, (Obama) would have lost.




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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:43 PM
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1. Healthcare reform and stricter environmental laws were a secret? Jeb is the smart one?
I must be super-special because I knew this. Duh.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:43 PM
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2. Geebus! Sounds like he's gearing up for a 2012 run...
Ya think?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:46 PM
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9. Probably be Romney's VP.
That's why we need to cheer on Palin/Bachmann 2012.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:34 PM
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24. Oh he is alright. Poppy and Barb owe him, bigtime.
Here's my speculation: Jeb/Palin. Palin will be hitting the megachurches while Jeb schmoozes the corporate elite.

Expect some sort of manufactured incident to create a plausible win for him, too. My only question is, can the bfee keep the palinbots from radically promoting her once they're in office?
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:43 PM
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3. "If we could only bring back Reaganomics..."
They sound like a broken record, "cut taxes cut taxes cut taxes".

I'm sick of it.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:44 PM
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4. Sheesh ....
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:44 PM
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5. My bet is that Jeb will run in 2012
I can only hope this country has had enough of bush-ness.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:47 PM
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11. I doubt he could make it past the first three primaries
His stupid brother fucked the name of "Bush" forever.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:55 PM
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15. The country definitely has
But the whore media and the electro-fraud "voting" machines haven't.

If the Bush Crime Family have a horse in that race, they fully intend to steal it.

I don't think they'll be in 2012 though, because they only like to be in charge when there's money to steal and redistribute to themselves and their billionaire friends.

Poppy's mess was big enough that they had to take 8 years off. Chimpy's mess is 100 times worse than that. I think they're gonna sit out 2012, because there's nothing in it for them.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:04 PM
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18. I think he'll wait until 2016 before running
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:41 PM
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31. He's already running
his recent statements are no accident.

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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:44 PM
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6. We didn't "win on tactics", Jeb, your party "lost on FAIL."
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:29 PM
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22. Bingo
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:45 PM
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7. He had Goldman Sachs and the rest of Wall Street behind him, Jeb.
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steelmania75 Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:46 PM
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8. He's sounded almost just as crazy as Michelle BACHMANNN@+@#IDFJHG
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:47 PM
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10. One wonders what sort of mental acrobatics one mst go through
To write drivel like this.

Curious that he doesnt write a piece about his bro's secret plan. After all he ran on fiscal responsibility, compasionate conservatism, and restoring americas moral standing..

Spec in my eye and all that
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:47 PM
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12. Same ol' sniping without solutions, plus plenty of misinformation about what we found on day one.
He will spend the next years sniping, as well as the rest of the GOP on the economy, for which they will claim no responsibility.

We need to spend 24/7 explaining the facts. That we finally decided to put the Iraq War on the ledger, for one thing.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:47 PM
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13. Every god damn republican has lost their mind...completely.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:50 PM
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14. In 2004 Kerry warned that Bush intended to privatize Social Security. WH said Kerry was trying
to scare people.

In Feb2005, Bush went on a campaign to sell the country on his plan to privatize Social Security.


Hey Jeb....you couldn't have even STOLEN the 2004 election if media had done its job and followed up on Kerry's Social Security charge.

And how honest was Georgieboy when Kerry attacked him on Tora Bora? Gee....who was telling the truth, then, Jeb?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:56 PM
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16. Big head jeb should stfu
but the bfee must have him at the helm so we better be watching out 'cause they are between a rock and a hard place with so many people now privy to their criminality. Jeb bushco is to be passed off lightly at ones own peril. He is much worst than bro' ever wished to be. jr wasn't smart enough, in fact he and the dick almost blew the whole bfee operation
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:57 PM
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17. How about a scandal to remove this guy?
I am tired of hearing him too.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:10 PM
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19. What secret? If Jeb's brother wasn't such a freakin screwup...
we wouldn't be in such a mess. It must take a special
genetic obliviousness to be a Bush.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:25 PM
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20. Well maybe Jeb should try and remember
It was his "IDIOT" brother that got us into this mess and who started the whole bailout thing to begin with! I am so sick of republicans trying to blame this all on Obama when that dip shit Bush was the cause of the whole mess!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:27 PM
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21. fuck ANY and ALL of the bu$h motherfuckers
i don't give a shit what any of them say unless they are responding to a judge
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:31 PM
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23. fuck this lying piece of shit - who created the deficit economy? REPUBLICANS
if a republican opens his mouth he or she is lying.

what Obama needs to do is quit pandering to the republican whiners and stop funding banks and put money where it's needed - WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Obama needs to move to the left to succeed in any economic sense.

Krugman and Steiglitz told the truth (as Biden admitted) and NOW Obama needs to stop coddling the fucking embezzlers who got us where we are and make it possible for people have jobs with living wages.

put money into job creation in new energy tech.

make it possible for people to go to the doctor w/o going bankrupt.

republicans - just shut the fuck up. you make things worse and the world would be better off without your lying asses misleading your sheep.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:34 PM
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25. I agree
His brother lied and said the tax cuts would pay for themselves. In 2004 when Kerry's economic advisers confronted Bushes team on the huge deficit they had created for no one but the wealthiest benefit, they lied in response. Telling America that these deficits were short term and the long term economic growth would pay for them. So his crap brother lied us into debt not Obama. So really... * him.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 03:33 PM
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26. Jeb's bro GW would'nt have been our pResident if our voices were not silenced as to his secret plan
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 03:34 PM by Blaze Diem
either.

puke
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:21 PM
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27. A Bush complaining about "secret plans" and deficits? Sounds like classic projection.
If I were Jeb I would keep my big fat trap shut,
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:51 PM
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34. Has he told us of the Bush Family's Evil Empire secret manifesto yet? n/t
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:23 PM
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28. edited by me
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 05:37 PM by Autumn
because it was too rude a comment even for a bush. I apologize.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:32 PM
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29. jeb"I'm the smartliar" bush's brother is the reason
the perfect storm was created to elect President Obama.

The bushes' are their own worst enemies.

Thanks for gw bush and dickhead cheney for being such fuckedup assholes and making a 180 degree turn around possible.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:35 PM
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30. Poor Jeb
Misdirected anger is never flattering. It must suck to have a brother screw your chances at the big leagues.
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walkaway Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:47 PM
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32. What a kook! He should run in 2012 with "W" as his VP.
That I'd like to see.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:50 PM
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33. Fugg him and his brother
Who ran up the debt?
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:55 PM
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35. Don't you mean brothers? One at the head of the security company 'looking after' the WTC ...
... just before 911, the other deep in the S&L fiasco of the 1980's.
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