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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:12 PM
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I know what "Health Care Reform" is going to be!
It will be a small tax cut that will help working families pay for health care. And that will be it. Period. And THAT'S if the DLC lets us pass it.

There will be no "public option" - the bought and paid for Congress is tearing that down as we speak

It won't even insure every American - the last thing Insurance companies want to do is cover every last weak, sick and starving American. No, they want folks who don't get sick.

And chances are, our party will raise a flag and declare "victory."

:grr:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:13 PM
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1. You have to make money to be able to get a tax cut
So those who don't have jobs will be sol
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:14 PM
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3. Well, yeah!
You don't think the Insurance companies want to take care of the unemployed, do you?

They are running the show, so expect the worst.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:17 PM
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8. They'll subsidize them or extend SCHIP plus lower the Medicare age
Those tweaks can be accomplished over time.

It's not they way I want to see it. But that's how it could be done. Dragging the right wing kicking and screaming every step of the way. Meantime, many are left in the cold. :(
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:14 PM
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2. Wow.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:15 PM
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4. I'm cynical - whaddya expect?
:)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:16 PM
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6. Put up or shut up, that's how I see it.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:36 PM
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10. And you think I'm not involved in one of those?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:39 PM
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12. Oh - and let me say I don't think it will be Obama's fault
He wants to fix it. He's one person - albeit a powerful person, but still one person alone.

I am talking about the Max Baucuses out there...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:40 PM
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13. Why would you be, if you already know the outcome will be pointless bullshit?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:41 PM
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14. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:43 PM
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16. So... delcaring that you know the outcome is going to be pointless bullshit...
that's preparing?

How? IMO it's defeatist, pointless bullshittery. Just MHO though.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:23 PM
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20. Just because I think it is going to be that way doesn't mean it will be
I've been wrong many times

I hope I'm wrong again

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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:48 PM
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17. and I'll be at work n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:54 PM
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18. Pass it on to other activists in your area.
Every little bit helps.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:15 PM
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5. So we won't let them
declare victory. I have already told them that if we don't get real Health Care reform I will vote for their opponent and if it is a republican so be it, I will do so.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:16 PM
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7. And they're gonna eat my baby!
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:21 PM
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9. I hope your wrong.
I know it's a possibility, but I'm hoping that something substantial will come out of all of this bloviating. I would
think that most of them know that the whole "tax cut" thing has lost it's appeal after the Repubs lost so badly with that
same tired old formula.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:38 PM
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11. Please please PLEASE let me be wrong
Have I said how much it sucks to be right all the time?

When 9/11 happened I thought "Oh shit, now we'll end up in never ending wars all over the Mideast."

People thought I was behaving irrational.

I hope to whatever you are right and I am wrong.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 06:14 PM
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21. *fingers crossed*
I know how you feel, people think I'm a cynical person too. :hi:

Somedays I still try to think of a country to move to...always too expensive or too dangerous...or something. So I'm hoping.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:42 PM
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15. Don't just bitch on the Internet.
Call your Congresscritters: Capitol Switchboard: 800-826-3688

And MoveOn.Org is organizing health care reform rallies for TOMORROW:

http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?action_id=180

Find a rally near you and GO!
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 05:16 PM
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19. The Republican Health-Care plan >>
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