My attempt at optimism regarding health care.

[Stinky The Clown]

The House pretty much has the votes to do something meaningful on health care.

The problem is in the Senate, where the Blue Dogs are trying to make themselves meaningful. All we need from these fuckers is a vote for cloture. Not for a bill. Cloture. And that might be brought about by arm twisting more easily than an actual bill. And that would then bring a bill to the floor for that good old "upperdown" vote.

Then on to committee. And hopefully an improved bill.

And then, I think, we're down to the need for two simple majority votes. And then we need a presidential signature.

Lots of room for lots of devils to find details with which to dance, to be sure.

But yeah ..... maybe we *can* get something done.




...... or not.

[bobbolink]

1. Our favorite socialist senator is working to get that cloture agreement.

Send him support!

:applause:

[wtbymark]

4. B e r n i e n/t

[bobbolink]

6. He's the ONE! Wish he were my Senator!

I'd trade BOTH Udall and Bennett for him anyday!

[FrenchieCat]

2. You are correct.

Please read this..... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8498053

[phantom power]

3. The fact that they could...

is going to just make it all the more enraging when they don't.

That was MY attempt at optimism. Did it work?

[bobbolink]

5. If your realism comes to pass, it will spell the end of the Democratic party.

Ed Schultz has been pounding on that very thing.

They can either wipe out the Republicans by doing the right thing on this, or they can wipe out themselves.

I think it will be one or the other.

Taking bets?

[Stinky The Clown]

7. The word all of them seem to have forgotten is "Bold"

I apply that to all of them, from top to bottom.

That includes our president.

It applies to the lowliest freshman in Congress.

[OHdem10]

8. The Fox News Panel says the option will be dropped in the end

M. Liason, NPR, Obama wants "something to sign".

Too many people are saying things are going to have to be cut.

Another. The Health Care Bill will have to be smaller.

It is beginning to look as if Real Health Care was never considered.
Reform meant rejuggleing the program so the Elites do not
have serious responsibility. The Social Programs are killing us
have been their mantra. Translated: There are too many people.
We more fortunate cannot foot the bill. How much Medicare did
they gut???

All we need is too learn, only the poorest of the poor qualify.

Do not mind me, I am becomming excessively cynical.