KO - Breaking news re CIA lying to congress

[malaise]

This is HUGE!!!

[spanone]

1. it BETTER be...

rogue government anyone?

[malaise]

3. Andrea Mitchell is on now

This should be fun

[spanone]

8. cia briefers deceived congress....but they didn't lie....what the f*ck is that?

[tridim]

20. They didn't lie, but also didn't tell Congress everything they knew.

Which in the real world is considered lying.

[G_j]

21. no, it's not their practice, to lie..

:shrug:

[snappyturtle]

2. :)

:popcorn: with lots of butter because this should be good!

[tridim]

4. And I assume The Dick told them to lie, which would be even HUGEer.

:evilgrin:

[malaise]

6. Pelosi must be having a good laugh

One more lie mashed down

[alsame]

26. Jack Rice said that one possible scenario was that the Bush

Wh directed the 'misinformation'.

[me b zola]

5. What's up with Panetta?

He's refusing to recant his earlier statements backing the cia when they denied lying to Pelosi.

[EFerrari]

7. I hope someone give some details! No MSNBC here.

:hi:

[malaise]

11. The CIA did not provide all the information to Congress

during Bushco. The question is was that deliberate - under Bushco's orders, etc.

Jack Rice on now. Looks like the six Congressmen backing Pelosi have been vindicated.

:hi:

[EFerrari]

29. Thanks!

[me b zola]

14. Several congresspeople have come forward to say

that Panetta has testified to them (today?) that the cia has mislead them on several issues. The congresspeople then asked publicly for him to then amend the remarks he made re Pelosi vs the cia dust up that happened recently. Panetta then publicly declined to amend those remarks.

on edit: here's a link to the msnbc story:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/07/08/1989981.aspx

[EFerrari]

28. Thank you!

[me b zola]

36. You're welcome

:hi:

[cbdo2007]

9. WOOHOO - My 100th post!!!

[Lochloosa]

37. Welcome to DU cbdo2007 and congrats on your 100th post

:toast:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. Explain how it's huge.

1. Everybody already knew they were lying.

2. What will be the consequences of admission?

[spanone]

13. it supports pelosi's accusation that she wasn't briefed....everybody DIDN'T know that

everybody HERE knew it

[malaise]

15. Well we may finally have hearings

Misleading Congress is supposed to be a serious matter.

[spanone]

17. if the cia lies to congress, who are they telling the truth to?

[tridim]

19. Good question, that obviously should be asked in hearings.

My guess, BushCo and PoppyBushCo.

[spanone]

23. my guess too, but are they STILL reporting to them or who???? Obama? cheney?

[malaise]

24. By the way I hope you love that new Buick ad

with Ini Kamoze - Hot Stepper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3uZhh4HpKI

[emulatorloo]

32. Wow I LOVE that song. Hadn't heard it in a while . . .THNX n/t

[malaise]

34. Ini is one of the most professional artistes

in the business.

[spanone]

33. i love that....

[MadBadger]

18. "Everybody already knew they were lying" Just because we at DU do, doesnt mean "Everybody"

[NightWatcher]

12. Fire Panetta, Disband the CIA, scatter the workload to DIA, DSS, NRO and NIMA

[Kingofalldems]

16. Has Fox news apologized yet?

They were all over the original story.

[tridim]

22. Faux Scroller: "Nanci Pelosi (R) vindicated, was lied to by Clinton's CIA"

[malaise]

25. LOL

:rofl:

[DoBotherMe]

27. LOL!

congenital liars aren't they. Dana ; )

[EFerrari]

30. LOL!

[malaise]

31. Rachel looks good too

Frank Rich and Ensign's latest troubles.

[Fuzz]

35. This isn't a Michael Jackson thread! K & R!!!

[mark olson]

38. HUGE! - er, not, never mind...................NT

[spanone]

40. proof that the cia is lying to congress is big.....

[mark olson]

41. Maybe you missed Olbermann's "nevermind" .......NT

[kentuck]

39. Who in the hell is surprised by this?

This is news??

[Sheepshank]

42. huge huge huge!!

1. Because the Reps get to eat a trough of rotting of crow.
2. Lying to congress is a felony
3. Casts doubts on all other CIA statements that may seem contradictory.
4. VINDICATION!!!! A good "in your face" should never be underestimated.
5. I have a few Rep acquaintances that will be laying low for a while.
6. Boehner is suddenly at a loss for words.
7. I feel a tad superior at the moment.
8. I can give 'em a shit eating grin and tell them to STFU!

[troubledamerican]

43. Oh, you're not talking about all the OTHER times we learned the CIA is lying.

Simply shocking. Church Committee? Iran-Contra investigations? Frank Terpil & Edwin Wilson? Cocaine planes registered to the CIA?

Wait a minute. You mean THIS time when we learned the CIA is lying. I'm SHOCKED. Again.

[Oilwellian]

44. The letter & the signatures

Remember how CIA Director Leon Panetta said in May that members of the House Intelligence Committee “will have to determine” whether the CIA accurately and appropriately briefed Congress about the agency’s “enhanced interrogation program”? It appears that Panetta reached a conclusion himself.

On June 26, six seven Democrats on the committee — Anna Eshoo (Calif.), John Tierney (Mass.), Rush Holt (N.J.), Mike Thompson (Calif.), Alcee Hastings (Fla.) and Jan Schakowsky (Ill.) — wrote to Panetta,

“Recently you testified that you have determined that top CIA officials have concealed significant actions from all Members of Congress, and misled Members for a number of years from 2001 to this week.”

The letter — which doesn’t explain what those “significant actions” concerned* — asks that Panetta “publicly correct” his May 15 statement that it isn’t CIA “policy or practice to mislead Congress.” TWI acquired a copy of the letter, which comes after CQ reported that committee chairman Silvestre Reyes (D-Texas) also nebulously stated that CIA “affirmatively lied” to the committee.

But CIA spokesman George Little says it’s “completely wrong” to say Panetta determined CIA misled Congress, as the six legislators charge. “Director Panetta stands by his May 15 statement,” Little said. “It is not the policy or practice of the CIA to mislead Congress. This Agency and this Director believe it is vital to keep the Congress fully and currently informed. Director Panetta’s actions back that up. As the letter from these six representatives notes, it was the CIA itself that took the initiative to notify the oversight committees.”

Little continued: “As for the Congress, as the Speaker has said, ‘We all share great respect for the dedicated men and women of the Intelligence Community who are deeply committed to the safety and security of the American people.’”

Link To Letter

Sam Stein on Huff Post nails down the "significant actions" are about torture.

The letter does not explain what those "significant actions" were. But a source with knowledge of the dispute says it concerns Bush administration interrogation policies. Panetta briefed the Intelligence Committee about these and other matters two days before the letter was written, as well as other dates.

Sam Stein

Do you suppose this has something to do with whether Congress was briefed on one of our "significant actions" ... the raping of children in front of their parents in order to get them to talk? This should get interesting.

[HOLOS]

45. CIA LIES for a LIVING