cali
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Thu Jul-09-09 04:35 PM
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Use cautiously. At least that's what I intend to do. Same as I do with the HR feature at kos.
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Thu Jul-09-09 04:38 PM
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1. Fat chance of that happening. |
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Good posts will start in the hole, without a number and never make it out. Anonymous votes will keep important issues and lively discussions off the greatest page. People who check into DU's Greatest Page to get a feel for what is being discussed on a given day will miss out on a lot.
Those who spend their time in GD or GDP won't really be effected, but those who bop in will. I know that when posts get to the 5 rec mark, they have the potential to take off. Now they can be kept out.
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cali
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Thu Jul-09-09 04:40 PM
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3. We'll see. I expect DUers will largely be respectful with the unrec |
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button. I hope I'm right and you're wrong.
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Thu Jul-09-09 04:45 PM
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5. I hope I'm wrong, too. |
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Thu Jul-09-09 04:46 PM
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6. How's that working out for you so far? |
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Thu Jul-09-09 04:53 PM
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7. well, I honestly don't see anything worthy of unrecommending in my post |
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so it appears it's not working so well. Oh the other hand, it might take a while for people to realize that it's not something that should be abused. We'll see.
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Thu Jul-09-09 05:42 PM
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12. Do all have to see things exactly as you do, what or what is not worthy? |
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Is there a possibility, however small, that some people might disagree with you?
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Thu Jul-09-09 05:50 PM
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13. Of course, but that's not my point. |
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And please tell me what was offensive or over the line about my OP. I'm truly curious.
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Thu Jul-09-09 05:52 PM
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15. I have no idea, but I wouldn't discount the possiblity that someone else might. |
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Ever consider that there are simply some pissy and unhappy people here at DU?
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Thu Jul-09-09 06:00 PM
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16. sure, there are petty people here. there are childish people here |
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and those folks will sorely abuse the unrec function.
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Thu Jul-09-09 06:11 PM
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22. That's the risk we take when we give people freedoms and choices, |
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they might abuse them. Such is life.
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Thu Jul-09-09 04:40 PM
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2. Kos has specific guidelines for using the HR features. |
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It does so to limit popularity contests.
This is a free-for-all and it will not end well.
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cali
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Thu Jul-09-09 04:41 PM
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4. yeah, I know. And I really like those guidelines. There are other |
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differences too, but I hope people here will rise to the challenge.
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Thu Jul-09-09 05:02 PM
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8. You don't think the recommend |
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feature alone is used for popularity contests here?
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Thu Jul-09-09 05:08 PM
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9. The old rec feature generally ended up with multiple and conflicting POVs getting recs.... |
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but it did have the feature of having the best statement and argumentation of each point of view rise to the top.
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Thu Jul-09-09 06:39 PM
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24. Sure, but there are popularity factions that propel |
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provocative ideas to the Greatest. Thus; legalizing pot, atheism, smoking, and vegetarianism; get as fair a shot on the greatest as; anti-abortion, pro-christianity, and pro-death penalty. In that way, the Greatest shows the breadth of the community and the fierce engagement of its members.
Unrecommend ensures that only the most widely popular ideas get a fair hearing in the public sphere. I believe that it will contribute to the dumbing down of DU much like corporate news has contributed to the dumbing down of political and social engagement.
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Thu Jul-09-09 05:16 PM
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10. There's a reason why Kos only gives you 5 HRs. |
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Otherwise, the disrupters and spammers would HR everything that annoys them, or everything that's not theirs, and you'd see no end of abuse.
HR's are under a tight leash in Daily Kos. You only get five, you only get them if you have Trusted User status, and if you're caught abusing them (you're not allowed to HR a comment simply for disagreeing with it, you have to use them to whack spammers, trolls and other disrupters) you could be banned.
I hope Skinner keeps an eye on things and is ready to put a stop to abusers of Unrecs...
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Thu Jul-09-09 05:18 PM
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11. Agreed. The kos system is better. |
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Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 05:19 PM by cali
but I still hope folks will not act childishly about this once they get used to it.
edited to add: And you can see who hrs any given comment.
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Thu Jul-09-09 06:03 PM
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19. I would have no problem seeing who rec/unrec'd. I suspect unrec-haters... |
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would not like that, however.
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Thu Jul-09-09 05:51 PM
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Thu Jul-09-09 06:01 PM
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17. I agree - the new *ease* of rec/unrec leads to more misuse than the existence of unrec, imo. |
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Thu Jul-09-09 06:06 PM
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20. I like the hr transparency at kos a lot better than this, and I |
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like the limit on numbers of negative ratings each TU has.
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Thu Jul-09-09 06:15 PM
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23. You lost me on the acronyms, but I get the gist. |
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Thu Jul-09-09 06:02 PM
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18. Why are people unrec-ing your op? There's no substance to it |
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I fear this could turn out to be a popularity contest
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Thu Jul-09-09 06:07 PM
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21. I suspect because there are people |
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who do not like Cali very much. I've seen some call her out publicly but now they get to do it anonymously.
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