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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:06 AM
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Poll question: A poll about censorship, then
Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 10:39 AM by Orrex
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:07 AM
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1. Of course it is. It is the definition of censorship.
Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 10:10 AM by lumberjack_jeff
It is part of our charter.

It is also the main reason that the site is popular and effective. A site for "Democratic values and progressive ideals" can't function if it hosts discussions promoting the polar opposite.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:08 AM
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2. Contradictory poll
It is censorship, but it has nothing to do with free speech.

Speech is free from governmental intervention. DU is not a governmental body, ergo DU censoring certain topics has absolutely nothing to do with free speech.

Tehrefore, I did not vote in your poll becuase the correct answer becomes implied as making a false statement true.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:10 AM
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3. Bingo!
Too many people incorrectly use "censorship" as the opposite of "free speech".
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:17 AM
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7. I spotted the same flaw.
A private website is permitted to limit content.

The government is not.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:38 AM
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12. Only governments can censor?
When someone comes to my house, they don't use the "r" word.

I'm fine with calling that censorship.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:40 AM
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13. No, only governments can deny free speech. Private entities do not have that power
Private entitites are free to censor as they choose and it has nothing to do with free speech.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:42 AM
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14. I have revised the poll's subject line per your suggestion
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:20 AM
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9. +1 and
is this what one would call a push poll?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:12 AM
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4. Censorship? More Like Attention Grabbing...
I also am bypassing this poll as I see a lot of discussion here...almost every topic under the sun is discussed. It's when it turns into a flame war that mods step in and I'm grateful when they do.

Many of us do our own censorship and editing here...avoiding threads of topics that either one feels is ireelevant or vanity. Look at other discussion boards if you want to see censorship. Yes, some posts get scotched here, but generally because it's designed to inflame.

Most absurd is how people feel that if their posts get bumped from a web page that DU is becoming some authoritarian hell. Sheesh.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:13 AM
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5. "Disallow"? BWAHAHAHAA!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:16 AM
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6. Of course it's not censorship - DU is a BUSINESS, not a government entity
It provides discussion forums for FREE with optional additional services at cost, and sells advertising space. If you don't like what is said or not allowed to be said here, you are free to go and say or not say whatever you want somewhere else.

I hope that clears up the concept.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:19 AM
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8. It IS "censorship"...it's just not a violation of "free speech".
...for the reason you posted.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:23 AM
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10. Hard to answer.
DU is not the government, so it is free to censor people at will. When DU censors posts and people (and it regularly does), there's nothing unconstitutional about that.

I don't like the unrec feature, but it's not improper or unconstitutional in any way that I can see.

:dem:

-Laelth
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:30 AM
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11. When I came to DU I was looking for Democrats not trolls.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:46 AM
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15. DU is a privately owned forum that is open to the public.
I may invite people into my house, but that doesn't give them the right to say and do whatever they like. In my house I make the rules, the same thing goes for here at DU.
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