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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:13 AM
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Republicans Test 2010 Message: Cancel the Stimulus
So let me get this straight. They're banking on the U.S. and jobs for Americans to fail. I wonder if Americans will see this strategery for what it is or even recognize it's happening. I think it's pathetic.


Republicans Test 2010 Message: Cancel the Stimulus
GOPers Bank on Taxpayers Growing Weary of Spending as Economy Struggles
By David Weigel 7/10/09 8:46 AM


The day after President Obama signed the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) took to the airwaves to offer voters a different kind of new deal.

“If the American people will let the Republicans back in charge,” said Gohmert on the Feb. 19 episode of Sean Hannity’s Fox News show, “the 60 percent of this bill that won’t be spent until after the next election, we’ll cut it off and let it go to the Americans.”

That idea didn’t immediately take. In February, support for the economic stimulus package that passed with no Republican votes in the House and only three (including that of Sen. Arlen Specter, who later switched parties) in the Senate, was above 50 percent. The March 31 special election for New York’s upstate 20th congressional district, an early test of a hard-edged Republican message opposing the stimulus, ended with an upset victory for now-Rep. Scott Murphy (D-N.Y.).

But as unemployment numbers rise, and as the Obama administration is forced to admit that its early projections of what the stimulus package would achieve were overly optimistic, Republicans are returning to that February vote and hanging it around the necks of vulnerable Democrats. Increasingly, they are echoing Gohmert’s enthusiastic pledge to scrap whatever stimulus money is left in January 2011. On Monday, Sen. John Kyl (R-Ariz.), the Republican whip in the Senate, said that he agreed with a recent poll that suggested Americans want to “cancel the rest of the stimulus spending.” On Wednesday, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) took to Twitter to make a similar argument: “Admin spent $110B of the $787B and job loss abounds. They should give the remaining $687B back to the taxpayers and stop this terrible idea.” Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kans.), who is running for U.S. Senate in 2010, has offered multiple amendments to bills aimed at cancelling all of the remaining stimulus money. And the Republican National Committee gave its first-ever Grassroots Logic Award to Matthias Shapiro, a Utah IT consultant who directed a viral video that portrayed the spending and job growth promises of the stimulus as stacks of pennies being shoved off of a coffee table.

The return of the stimulus as a political weapon for Republicans as members in both houses of Congress have pre-emptively pushed back against the unpopular idea of a second crack at an economic rescue bill. It also comes as the party and its candidates grow increasingly confident that the stimulus, by failing so far to meet the projections of President Obama and congressional Democrats, is the key to a midterm election argument that the majority party is making matters worse by spending so much money.

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http://washingtonindependent.com/50309/republicans-test-2010-message-cancel-the-stimulus
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:14 AM
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1. But then their contributors like AIG and the banks won't have money.
Is that what the republicans really want?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:16 AM
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4. Why, of course. Any money for you and me is deemed worthless to them.
After all, we don't give huge contributions to their reelection campaigns.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:14 AM
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2. "Fail, America, Fail. Smirk." - Republicon Homelanders
Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 10:15 AM by SpiralHawk
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:15 AM
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3. Stupid Rethugs....lets cancel the stimulus because its not working even though most of it
has not been spent yet. Nice logic. And many Dems fall for it. if anything, Krugman and other economists argue that it was not big enough. I still think is too damn early to judge it or not.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:20 AM
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5. How do they plan to "give it back" to us?
Oh, right, MORE tax cuts- to the wealthy. That will sure help "stimulate" the economy just like it did the last 8 years. Oh, wait a min........... :eyes:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:22 AM
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6. Agree with your take, babylonsister. People must suffer for the Republicans
to succeed.

Their journey to re-establishing themselves as politically potent is a march over the backs of people whose homes have foreclosed, who cannot afford proper health care, and who need but cannot obtain other social services.


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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:22 AM
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7. It's not patriotic to second guess the commander in chief in a time of war
This nation is at war.

And when we are at war, we don't tell the commander in chief how to do his job.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:25 AM
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8. And here is the Democratic response to the Repubs:
We tried your taxcuts for the last eight years. They did not work. We are in a different economy. We had the largest taxcuts in history and the lowest job creation in modern history. It didn't work.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:35 AM
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9. Oh yeah? This time it will.
The definition of insanity.

It must really suck to be trapped in a (R) body with so little imagination... beyond the kinky sex acts, of course. They've got nothing.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:51 AM
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10. The Dems had better start calling the Republicans out and make
make them explain themselves.

The Republicans are expert at using Populism to their
advantage while condemning anyone else who may sound
populist. I give you the Dean Campaign---the Media and
GOP were "scared of populism". Palin is brilliant in
her populism.

Populism is a way of stirring passions and GOP know passions
\will move voters. Why else do they use Wedge issues, Gay Marriage.

The GOP understand the anger of the Masses. They are not going
to say anything to overtly affirm what the root is--just exploit
the hell out of it.

GOP knows how it looks to Joe and Jane Six Pack--Trillions to
Baners and Auto Industry but everytime you start to do something
for average Americans,i.e. Health Care--there is no money.
Note who objects to health care and cites cannot afford it as
the reason. Yes, Republicans.

They are covering up their obstructionism by yelling we will give
the money back to the taxpayers. The GOP knows they are not going
to take Billions and write checks to the American People. Emotionally
this sounds great. See the Game Change. Democrats have become
the big business supporters and Republicans want to give us our
money back.

If they could write checks it would only be those who pay taxes.
Redistribution is verboten. Two whole segments of society would
be left out.

The Democrats had better get some arguments together and start
fighting. The GOP are running the 2010 and 2012 capaigns right
now. The Democrats seem to be tryigng to prove they are Republicans.

Republicans always use populism(darkest kind). Folks it stirs the
emotions and gets votes.

How would you like a big fat check from Uncle Sam.
How much would a peson making 30K annually get back

How much would those who do not pay income tax get back.

How much would a milliiionaire get back?

Pin them down or they win.







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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 11:10 AM
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11. Looks like they've already started...
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 11:12 AM
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12. How stupid is Obama and the Democrats??!!

60 percent of this bill that won’t be spent until after the next election


WHY??

The economy needs the stimulus NOW! a massive infusion of cash into the economy NOW, not a trickle over the next two years. They have set themselves up for failure, and are running the risk of getting their asses kicked in 2010.

Jesus, this depresses me.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 11:27 AM
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14. Why do you believe a thing they say? That is the question. nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 11:13 AM
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13. Stupid. By then the stimulus money will be hitting everywhere.
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