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Fri Jul-10-09 03:02 PM
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Consumers Beware: Have You Noticed A Change To Your Shampoo Lately?...... |
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In case you've notice that the shampoo you've been buying all these years seems different - here's why.
Shampoo makers have altered their formulations slightly to make them not suds up or foam like they used to. Why? Because the tendency on the part of the user is to just use more shampoo for more suds. And guess what? You run out of shampoo faster because you use more per shampooing.
It's the latest in the attempts by companies to make more money. Now you'll be buying more shampoo to get the same results - hopefully - you will not realize that this is what they did and you will continue to buy more of their shampoo versus switching to a competitor.
Also - do you buy bleach for clothes washing. Well the container you buy might still look like a gallon container - but - look at the contents - it's now 3 quarts. And guess what they raised the price beyond what the gallon used to sell for.
Just pointing these two out - there are thousands of other ways these companies are making you the consumer pay more for less.
If any of you have any other examples - post them here so others in DU can benefit by knowing.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:06 PM
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1. No change. Good old White Rain, at 99 cents for |
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Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 03:07 PM by MineralMan
a huge bottle. Why would they change it?
Still, as my wife tells me, I have perfect hair. Any shampoo does the job.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:41 PM
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22. White Rain for me too! |
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I haven't noticed a change. :hi:
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Sat Jul-11-09 09:57 AM
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I use a bar of soap for the whole shebang, hair included. No muss, no fuss. But then again, Im a dude.. ;)
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Fri Jul-10-09 10:29 PM
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54. I have used Suave lots of times for a little over a dollar |
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Sat Jul-11-09 01:34 AM
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57. Still goes on sal in my area for 99 cents occasionally n/t |
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Sat Jul-11-09 10:01 AM
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75. check the Dollar Tree, if you have one in your area. |
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I loves me some Dollar Tree!
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:07 PM
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2. Has anybody out there tried to buy a pound of coffee lately? |
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They don't make 1-pound packages anymore - now you get a can or bag of 14 ounces, or 13, or 12.5, but certainly not a 1-pound can.
Good thing the prices went down along with the weight, huh? :sarcasm:
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:10 PM
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4. Pounds of bacon are getting scarce too, among other things. |
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A can of tuna is now 5 oz. I bet that can looks about the same as it did before doesn't it? Best check it out.
Try using 5 oz can of tuna in your Momma's tuna casserole recipe and see how that turns out.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:16 PM
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9. Im sure glad there is no inflation |
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:16 PM
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8. But the 11.5 oz "pound" is the New Convenient Cannister Refill size!!! |
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Says so on the package, and Folgers wouldn't like to me after all these years.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:35 PM
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18. I went to buy some dried beans |
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last week and none of the bags were a lb, they were fourteen oz.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:40 PM
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19. If you buy in bulk (like Smart & Final or other places) you can still get |
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staples like beans, rice, flour, etc in 5 lb and 10 lb and 20 lb sizes. That's what I do. I won't go along with retail downsizing.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:45 PM
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I buy 2.5 pound bags at Costco for $10.00. |
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I wouldn't be caught dead buying one of those micro-bags at the grocery store.
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Fri Jul-10-09 06:42 PM
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44. frozen pizzas are getting smaller too! |
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of course this might be good. It keeps my ass from getting fat.
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Fri Jul-10-09 08:40 PM
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48. I get mine freshly roasted at Costco. 2.5 pounds, $8.99. Tastes much better than Starbucks. |
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Fri Jul-10-09 08:40 PM
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49. I get mine freshly roasted at Costco. 2.5 pounds, $8.99. Tastes much better than Starbucks. |
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Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 08:40 PM by Kablooie
Whoops. Hit the button twice.
Sorry bout that.
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Sat Jul-11-09 05:04 AM
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60. That started to happen over a decade ago. |
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Sat Jul-11-09 10:07 AM
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77. It happened in the 1970s too. Whenever the costs rise sharply manufacturers start shaving sizes. |
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It's an old and well known trick.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:07 PM
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3. I have a rainsoft system in my house... so I get MORE suds with less shampoo/soap |
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Since the water is soft
(Pittsburgh water is traditionally VERY hard)
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:12 PM
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5. Most higher prices shampoos |
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(like those sold in salons) contain much lower amounts of suds-producing detergent, any hairdresser would tell you to use a minimal amount, regardless of suds. That said, too bad no one is getting out the message for all consumers.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:13 PM
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6. Another change is the pump |
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Because of changes in temperature in the bathroom, any air inside the shampoo bottle increases and decreases in volume.
This, in turn, pushes the shampoo out of the bottle through the pump, whether you want it to or not.
The emptier the bottle is, the more air there is in the bottle, the more shampoo gets pushed out of the bottle and down the drain.
If you get a bottle of shampoo that has the old style dispenser, not the pump, hold on to it and throw away the pump.
If you can't do that, unscrew the pump from the bottle, so that the air pressure can escape through the cap instead of forcing the shampoo out of the bottle.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:15 PM
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7. Decades ago the shampoo makers significantly boosted their profits |
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by adding ONE WORD to their instructions:
Wet hair.
Apply shampoo.
Lather.
Rinse.
WHAT was the ONE WORD added after "rinse?" :evilgrin:
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:20 PM
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:31 PM
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Edward Bernays is required reading for anyone seeking to see the "big picture." Curtis Adam's documentary "The Century of the Self" available on BBC is also an excellent antidote for the effects of the commercial cesspool in which we're drowning.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:25 PM
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13. I still never wash my hair twice in a row |
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in fact, in a bid to counter their evil marketing genius I now wash my hair half as often as before. Used to be every day. Now it's every other or sometimes every three days. Rinsing hair in between days seems to work just fine for me and my hair style.
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Fri Jul-10-09 04:03 PM
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28. I retrained my hair so that it only required washing once a week. |
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The more often you wash your hair the quicker it gets oily. One week is pretty much the limit though.
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Fri Jul-10-09 08:45 PM
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50. So did I. Of course, getting older helped too.... |
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I used to wash my hair every day.
On hot days sometimes twice a day.
But as I've gotten older I find I can go a week on one shampoo. The most I shampoo is twice a week.
It's less oily now than it used to be...whether from age or because the oil glands aren't being stimulated by constant washing, who knows...
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Fri Jul-10-09 10:27 PM
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53. I started this 20 years ago, when I was young! So I don't know if age was a part of it. |
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I just got bored with hair care. My hair was waist length and that maintenance was a chore. :) It is definitely true that the longer your hair the longer you can go without washing, when I cut it I had to retrain it again!
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Sat Jul-11-09 07:59 AM
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only wash my hair may-be 3X's a week....and it seems just fine.
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Fri Jul-10-09 04:49 PM
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37. My hairdresser said to never |
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wash your hair every day. Bad to your hair, especially when it's dry, and not oily. And if you're not getting into real dirt, your hair can stand to be left alone for longer periods of time.
If I washed mine every day, it would look like the tumbleweeds heading down any part of the desert.
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Fri Jul-10-09 06:34 PM
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41. Better yet, use vinegar and baking soda |
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I use a mixture of 2 cups warm water with about 1/8 cp of baking soda - dissolved well. i usually make them in the plastic water bottle - easier to handle. Pour that over my head and work in well. Follow this with another mix of 2 cups warm water and about 3 ozs of vinegar as a rinse.
Of course i do a final rinse. It doesn't smell and it really cleans the scalp and leaves the hair shiny and smooth. i have thick shoulder length hair. I also color it and it hasn't affected the color.
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Fri Jul-10-09 10:32 PM
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55. Wow. I wash my hair once a day or more. Then again, its very long and very curly. |
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It would look like a frizzball haystack if I did not wash it daily and I would not get a comb in it. I go through so much conditioner its crazy.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:28 PM
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So you could use twice as much. And you had to get your hair "squeaky" clean. Of course all that twice-washed hair went from squeaky to crackly pretty quickly. Et voila, you need to add a conditioner to put back the oil you just stripped out of your hair.
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Fri Jul-10-09 04:24 PM
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Genau!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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("Intercourse" has too many syllables, you see...)
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Sat Jul-11-09 02:56 PM
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78. As detectives in the case of the drown Silicon Valley |
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Computer programmer found out -that one word was "REPEAT"
Only thing in the guy's shower was his dead body and the empty shampoo bottle...
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:17 PM
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10. I've seen this across the board. Whether it's burger prices and relative sizes |
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or the taste and size of chocolate bars...it is all worse. My wife and I have been buying lots more natural food products, but for consumer products it is more difficult to find replacements such as laundry detergents.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:21 PM
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:31 PM
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16. Is that Ryan the temp |
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with the mismatched huevos?
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Fri Jul-10-09 04:29 PM
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30. The character B.J. Novak plays |
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who is Ryan the temp? :shrug: :hi:
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Sat Jul-11-09 10:02 AM
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76. Yep! The inside isn't as gooey anymore, either. |
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which was the only reason to buy one in the first place.
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Thought I got some stale ones.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:41 PM
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20. How to wash your hair and save shampoo - From an Ex-Cosmetologist |
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Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 03:51 PM by blogslut
1) Wet your hair thoroughly
2) Pour a bit of shampoo in your palm, no bigger than a half dollar
3) Distribute the shampoo through your hair - if it lathers up, that means your hair wasn't that dirty to begin with and you do not need to rinse and repeat. If the shampoo did not lather up, you need a second wash but you'll also require less shampoo - likely no more in your palm than the size of a quarter.
As for your claim, I would love it if you provided a link. The truth is the old rinse-lather-repeat ploy is why people waste shampoo. As far as I know, shampoo still contains surfactants.
*EDIT ADD* Another Pro-tip: Unless your hair is super oily, always finish your shampoo ritual with conditioner. Shampoo is only strong enough to lift dirt. It's the conditioner (oil) that grabs the dead skin and the rinsing off of that conditioner that gets rid of the bigger "bits".
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:41 PM
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21. I watched Campbell Soup cans and other products shrink right before |
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:45 PM
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24. Open a can of tuna. Used to be 3-4 tablespoons of water. Now it's half water. |
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Fri Jul-10-09 06:36 PM
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42. Yep. 3 oz of tuna in the last 6.5 oz can I opened n/t |
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Fri Jul-10-09 09:27 PM
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52. We quit buying tuna for this reason |
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When I had to open 2 cans to make the same tuna salad I had made with 1, I crossed tuna off the shopping list.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:47 PM
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25. Ice Cream containers are about half to two-thirds what they used to be, yet cost more. |
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Fri Jul-10-09 04:36 PM
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34. I read where there was a brand that refused to downsize its containers and ... |
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some of the competitors did not want their product displayed beside that brand(for obvious reasons).
... it is no longer a problem at the grocery stores I frequent since they ALL are downsized.
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Fri Jul-10-09 04:56 PM
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38. Blue Bell is still in half-gallon containers. |
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Sat Jul-11-09 08:30 AM
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68. sales here lately. I'm not sure what's going on... |
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first the milk was through the roof and then the ice cream was crazy. But in the last few weeks, the grocery stores have had sales on both ice cream and milk, and not just the store brands. Of course, the cartons ARE smaller. Yeesh.
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Fri Jul-10-09 03:49 PM
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27. As long as they don't change the directions. |
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It's lather in first., and lets keep it that way. Okay? :grr:
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Pet food bags have been shrinking a lot. Purina One downsized their 20 lb back of cat food to 16 lbs.
I complained, and got a few coupons, at least. But I think it sucks!
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Fri Jul-10-09 04:33 PM
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32. downsizing is rampant |
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Edited on Fri Jul-10-09 04:42 PM by marketcrazy1
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33. I've noticed the following ... |
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Canned chicken has lots more water that it used to contain. Bakery sized loaves of bread are a lot smaller. Potato Tortilla chip bags have remained the same, but the volume has decreased and the top of the bag is covered with writing or a border so you cannot see how empty it is above the clear window on the front. Canned vegetables have a lot more liquid.
And when there is about to be a 'change' to a smaller container or in price, there is often a 'sale price' to clear out the 'larger containers' before putting in all new 'smaller containers' OR once the sale price ends the 'regular everyday price goes way up.'
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65. In addition, the newer smaller volume products are labeled as "fun". |
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Yes, it's "fun" to pay more for less. Yes, indeed.
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Fri Jul-10-09 04:40 PM
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35. I hadn't known about the shampoo |
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But it pretty much is the same story all the way around. Look at tuna fish cans--once upon a time, each can held 7 oz. Then it went down a full ounce, to 6; now, it's 5.5, and we will still buy it, regardless. What used to be about two sandwiches per can is now just stretching out to a sandwich and a half.
It's with ice cream, too, which used to be a half gallon, and now is about 3.5 quarts, and I'm sure it will go even lower over time.
I thought it might be worth it to get some sort of class action suit going, to make each company announce when they were lowering the sizes or content of a product. Personally, I'm sure a lot of this shit got done under repugs' watch, and well, just another fuck-up without resolution.
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Fri Jul-10-09 04:43 PM
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36. Ice cream has shrunk. Cereal has shrunk. Juice has shrunk. Coffee has shrunk. |
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Fri Jul-10-09 05:17 PM
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39. Tide has gotten larger! |
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Er ... the scoop that is. I've been using a scoop that came with a box from years ago and it looks tiny in comparison :-)
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Fri Jul-10-09 06:39 PM
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43. They've been messing with lather agents for years. |
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They pump them into soap like crazy. Apparently, people connect lather to the soap actually working. In reality, the amount of lather has very little to do with the effectiveness of soap. Nevertheless, soap producers keep dumping more and more into soap just to make us happy.
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Fri Jul-10-09 06:45 PM
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45. And YET---there were a number of DUers attacking those of us who depend on COLAs, saying |
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that prices haven't gone up.
Yes, they came after us strongly..... implying that we were greedy to want and need those COLAs.
I'd like to know where they shop!
And why their hearts have shriveled.
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Fri Jul-10-09 07:09 PM
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46. I had a shampoo that the top was welded on |
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so it was impossible to remove it and get the last couple of uses out of it ... that was the first and last time I ever bought that brand! :argh:
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take a knife to containers
I PAID for that shampoo dammit:grr:
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Fri Jul-10-09 08:49 PM
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51. I use all different kinds, but I like the way Prell smells and sudses up |
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Actually, I found that if I use just a wee bit of shampoo to "wet" my hair, then rinse, I can get a nice head of suds going with a second lather and not have to use a lot.
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Sat Jul-11-09 08:26 AM
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67. I didn't realize they still make Prell... |
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I used to love that smell!
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Fri Jul-10-09 10:37 PM
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56. I've noticed my dish soap seems weaker. It all boils down to this: |
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Inflation is taking shape not so much in the price as in the reduction in quantity/quality of products. However, I have begun to notice that my $100 buys less groceries than it used to.
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58. And yet we have had 8 years of relatively low inflation. |
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Sat Jul-11-09 08:08 AM
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62. It's interesting that you post this. |
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All of my life I have been able to wash my hair (and I have long hair) only once, but over the course of the last year or so, I've had to wash it two and sometimes three times for it to be "squeaky" clean. I thought it was a change in my chemistry as I got older, and here it's just a profit motive. :nuke:
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Sat Jul-11-09 08:12 AM
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63. Same with caviar, gold leaf and truffles! |
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64. Yep, everything's getting Euro-sized.... nt |
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66. What were you taught as the origin of the "Baker's Dozen" |
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If you got the same story I did as a child, that Baker's gave 13 items when a dozen were bought because a crooked baker who shorted his customers had once angered the king, who severely punished him (death, dismemberment? - don't remember) for it so to avoid punishment no baker took the chance and added the extra item. Guess that kind of thinking went out the window about the time Reagan became President.
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Sat Jul-11-09 08:32 AM
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According to Wikipedia, the punishment was to get one's hand chopped off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker%27s_dozenI always thought it was something merchants did to ensure customer loyalty, but that came later.
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Sat Jul-11-09 08:48 AM
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72. Point being that strenuous regulation and enforcement should trump deceptive packaging |
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Sat Jul-11-09 08:35 AM
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71. this is why my favorite brand is |
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Sat Jul-11-09 08:55 AM
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73. Consumerist.com has a whole section of this stuff - LINK... |
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Sat Jul-11-09 03:04 PM
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79. Bleach is more concentrated in the current smaller bottle |
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A friend developed a sterilization procedure for his medical research about five years ago and in the middle of his work, the bleach companies made the changeover and he couldn't find any bleach in the old one-gallon size. He did have an old gallon bottle, though, and could compare it to the newer bottle. The newer bottle listed the concentration of sodium hypochlorite and it was higher in proportion to the smaller size such that the smaller bottle contained the same amount of sodium hypochlorite as the newer one. It also recommended using a smaller amount of bleach from the smaller bottle.
So if you add a quart of water to the three quarts of bleach at the new concentration, you end up with a gallon of bleach a the old concentration. This benefits the company by reducing the shipping cost, the environment by reducing the energy expended for shipping, and even the consumer by reducing the amount of space that the equivalent product takes up. They've done the same thing by concentrating laundry soap.
(And the old one-gallon size seems to be still available -- I have a one gallon bottle of some off-brand of bleach in my laundry cabinet -- if you want to make the comparison yourself.)
I'm not saying consumer product companies aren't above cheating the consumer, just that the example of the change bleach bottle sizes has more behind it. I've been noticing how the amounts in packaged foods are getting smaller and smaller, but the price isn't.
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