Thank you, Dr. Laura, for justifying infidelity. RW horndogs are heeding the message & blaming wives

[AnotherMother4Peace]

Dr. Laura espouses that a wife be the girl friend, & meet all the needs of the husband: cooking, cleaning, childrearing. A mother needs to stay home and accomplish all of these things without complaint. Dr. Laura even brought up the example of a Stepford Wife. And if a man is not having his needs met, this is reason to leave the marriage, or have an affair.

Sanford and Ensign have both indicated that their affairs were the fault of their wives. I do believe that they have been listening to Dr. Laura, and found justification for their dalliances.

Edit to fix an "oops"

[MineralMan]

1. Now, there is a very poor excuse for a 'counselor'

Dr. Laura is just plain disgusting.

[Jeep789]

2. Dr. Laura's life and advice are perfect examples

of what not to follow.

[LiberalFighter]

18. She shouldn't preach it when she doesn't believe or follow it.

[nosmokes]

3. that bint makes my blood boil

[Tan Gent]

4. Okay, I finally figured out you meant 'heeding'

it sounded a little kinky at first.
:D

[BlooInBloo]

5. I'm not sure if the OP meant "heeding" or "hearing" - both off by 1 char.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

7. Fixed the "oops" - thanks

[Mari333]

6. never forget naked Dr Laura

http://www.bartcop.com/mengidx.htm

[Control-Z]

15. Damn, I clicked.

I clicked, and now I feel dirty. Dear gawd, my eyes!

[Pharlo]

8. Well, to a certain extent it is their wives fault.

They ought to have realized what assholes they (the wives) were marrying BEFORE the wedding, rather than waiting a decade or two to figure it out.

[pipi_k]

9. Ah, yes...Dr. Laura...

Years ago I had some friends who recommended her radio show...thought she was a real "Tell it like it is" lady.

I listened, and was horrified. Disgusted.

Mostly I felt sorry for some of the people who called in looking for "advice" and got verbally abused instead.

Then I thought...wait a minute...if most of those people already know she's a verbally abusive asshole, then why should I feel sorry for them? Maybe some of them call in order to BE abused...in which case, they need lots more help than someone can give them over the telephone or on a radio show.

anyway...

"Dr" Laura is the brown streak in a prune addict's underpants.

[rurallib]

10. Jeezuz - do RWers marry women or take in slaves?

Their idea of marriage sounds more like a plantation set up.

[Mist]

11. Yes, the big daddy fantasy. The fact it never comes true accounts for most of their

tetchiness about everything, I'm guessing.

[seabeyond]

12. so then equally, if the wifes needs are not met, she is validated in seeking out another man

this is really where she wants to go.

growing up is a fun place to be

[get the red out]

13. Good point!

Somehow I imagine these conservative/misogynists have trouble meeting anyones needs in 30 seconds or less, except their own of course.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

14. The blame can NOT be theirs, it has to someone else's fault.

When you have Dr. Laura on your side, you know you've failed. :rofl:

[Azalea]

16. Justifying infidelity???

Each person has an inherent right to their own bodies, male and female. Adultery is not and never should be illegal. It may not be within the morals of some it may hurt the feelings of others but that isn't up for any of us to judge. We should all hope that the person we marry or commit to in a monogamous relationship returns the love and loyalty we give and express an expectation for. But no one should be forced or coerced nto fidelity, it should come with the loyalty one has for another in a romantic monogamous relationship.

ANY reason is a valid reason to cheat. Is it fair to the other person? No! But neither is being forced int fidelity that you no longer prescribe to. However the mature thing to do would be to let your partner know how they feel.

ALSO no one, male or female should feel coerced into staying with someone they don't want to stay with for any reason, whether it be the other person is unfaithful OR you no longer want to remain faithful to that person or any other reason. Relationships are choices.

[Buzz Clik]

17. That's quite a 180 for this hateful bitch.

But, seriously -- who gives a shit what she thinks?

[AnotherMother4Peace]

19. RWers like Sanford & Ensign care what she thinks, & indicated that their affairs

were their wives' fault.

[Buzz Clik]

21. Nobody's buying it. Unfortunately for Laura, she now clearly doesn't believe her own shtick.

I heard this the one and only time I listened to her. She dumped this shit on some poor caller who admitted to having an affair and wasn't sure what to do about her husband (and father of her child): "If you're looking for justification for your affair from me, it isn't coming. Do you really think there's something special about compromising your marriage and family so that you and your lover can have orgasms together?"

My thought at the time was, Wow! That's harsh. But, if she's consistent, I guess she's entitled to that analysis.

Guess what -- she isn't consistent. The righteous ass-reaming she gave that poor woman was unadulterated bullshit.

[zbdent]

20. I forget which RW witch it was (Coultercaust?) who said that, if a guy leaves his wife for another

person (in the case of the NJ governor, going to another guy) and has an affair, it's the fault of the wife ... for not sexually satisfying the husband ...

I've been waiting for the opportunity to use that one on my brother ... whose wife left him ... both very RW and vocal about it since Bush took office ...

[musette_sf]

22. donning my flame retardant suit

say what you will, but in the "traditional complimentary" relationship that Dr Laura preaches, the man also has to carry his share of responsibility, and she will also give a raft of sh!t to men who don't comport themselves in a manner befitting their prescribed role.

the man is expected to, among other things:
work long and hard and support the family without complaint, so the wife can be a SAHM and feel secure.
resist temptation to screw around or have particular female friendships that exclude the wife and family.
in conflicts between his family of origin and his wife, unfailingly take the side of the wife.
be involved in the lives of his children.

and if the man does not live up to his end of the bargain, the woman's choices are not my favorite choices, but here they are:
1. agree to live together and keep the peace until the youngest child is 18, then get the hell out of Dodge; or
2. if the guy is really dangerous, get the hell out now, but do not date till your youngest child is 18.

i could never even live within the confines of the "traditional complimentary" relationship, i'm much more an egalitarian, and i'm childless by choice, so this arrangement does not appeal to me at all.

but for a lot of people out there who, shall we say, might tend to be in the hardcore 24% Repuke dead-enders, and due to the twisted values they have to hold on to in order to believe the Repuke way, might be more liable to make bad, selfish decisions in their lives and in their families' lives, i think some of them NEED a life rulebook so as to wreak as little havoc as possible into their lives and their childrens' lives.

she had a caller the other night who was concerned about her daughter's hatred of her father. turns out the father had had (and still had) a mistress for 10 years of their 21 year marriage. the daughter found one of the love letters while working a summer job in her father's office. the woman's husband was upset and angry that the daughter harbored such animosity towards him. Dr Laura told her that this was what the man had reaped from his behavior, and that the daughter owed him zero filial piety due to his wanton destruction of the trust she placed in him. She suggested that all the women in the family (the woman and her two daughters) get into therapy immediately so that the girls could work through their feelings about their father's behavior, and so that they would be able to not carry this garbage into their adult relationships with men.

Dr Laura is making progress into the reality based world in tiny little steps. she no longer preaches hate and ignorance about gays, respects gay marriage and same-sex relationships, and even gets same-sex relationship callers into the show whom she advises just as she advises hetero couples.

she's still a right wing tool and she still regresses sometimes into stupid advice and behavior. but there is more there to her and her advice than is visible at the 30,000 feet level of "if you're not your husband's slave then you deserve what happens to you".

[seabeyond]

23. i hear ya.

choosing a more traditional, both roles have their responsibilities