A response to Jim Robinson's most recent rant

[AllentownJake]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2290736/posts

From the left's point of view, all conservatives are racists
vanity | July 11, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:05:52 AM by Jim Robinson
Edited on Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:18:36 AM by Jim Robinson.

Leftists believe that all conservatives are racists because:

We do not believe in pampering the race baiters or falling for the professional victim class.

What is a professional victim class Jim? How about a class of people who are forced into failing schools. My township has a fine school 2 miles down the road in Allentown there is a school that is literally falling apart. Most of the children in my township are white, most in the school 2 miles down the road are African American or Hispanic. Please Jim tell me how underfunding the education of those down the road does not lead to children who become adults with less skills

We do not believe in big government welfare programs.

The thing about it is you do. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been giant corporate welfare programs for the likes of KBR and Haliburton. You even reward bad results for those countries. Medicare Part D is nothing more than a giant corporate welfare program for big Pharma. You believe in welfare, just not to people who are struggling

We do not believe in wealth redistribution programs.

Again, you do. Just in the opposite direction. Conservative government spending is generally directed to big business who in turn rewards their CEOs and E-suite executives with ridiculous compensation packages.

We do not believe in universal health care programs.

I don't know what type of health care you believe in. Again this is probably a big business thing with you guys. Ironic you are so pro-life but so against anything that exist to sustain it or a good quality of it.

We do not believe in affirmative action programs.

You do though, the legacy program is a big thing with you guys. George W. Bush was a legacy at Yale, John McCain was a legacy at the Naval Academy. Legacies are Affirmative Action for dumb white heirs

We do not believe in quota systems.

What is a quota system exactly? Show me where in America a quota system exists? I know sales people who have to meet quotas I'm not sure where quota's exist in Affirmative Action

We do not believe in socialism.

No, you believe in Fascism, I'll be blunt. If you want to throw that word at the left, I'm going to throw Fascist right back at you....you crypto Nazi to steal from Gore Vidal.

We do not believe that government is the solution to our problems.

Except when it comes to war. I'm not a giant fan of doing everything with the government. However I do like roads and bridges and the post office and social security and regulatory bodies that protect me from eating poison etc..

We do not believe in comprehensive immigration reform or amnesty.

republicans are the biggest block to this. I'll make a deal with you, you fine every corporate entity $10,000 per offense of hiring an undocumented worker and you will see how fast illegal immigration goes down

We do believe in defending our borders.

I hear the Canadians are sharpening their ice skates as I type to steal our cheese. (stolen from Denis Leary)

We do believe in securing our nation.

What does this even mean? Securing our nation? Define please. That means nothing. Am I more secure right now because your last boob of a President killed a million Iraqis and displaced countless others. I may not be the brightest man however I do know if you kill 1,000,000 of my people I might be more likely to want revenge

We do believe in defending our constitution.

So do we, that's why we had two constitutional law scholars on our ticket

We do believe in defending our individual rights.

except when it comes to reproduction and who you choose to be your partner

We do believe in individual responsibility, self-sufficiency.

I believe in individual responsibility, however no man is an island. We are all in this thing called life together. Jesus of Nazareth tried to teach that...I see you skimmed that section

We do believe in education and opportunity for all who strive for it.

Yet you don't believe in funding schools or paying teachers

We do believe in capitalism and freedom.

We don't have capitalism in this country right now. Just because you can go into a grocery store and see lots of pretty different bottles doesn't mean you have capitalism. The freedom word is so loaded what freedom do you exactly believe in

We do believe that hard work and achievement promotes success.

So do we, why we nominated that 47 year old guy who accomplished so much. He's dreamy on the success and achievement front, Sarah can't even finish what she started

We do believe in Life, marriage, family, country, Liberty.

Yet the people in your party don't, as is evidenced by recent events.

We believe that America is the greatest and freest country on Earth and deserves to be defended!

What a crock of shit statement. Like liberals don't love our country. We are a great country and we will defend it from enemies both foreign and domestic. The nasty attacks on children of the President recently make your web site look like a domestic threat in my honest opinion

It's going to be a long up hill battle, but the only way this war is going to be won is to convince the majority of Americans that our free capitalist way of life is good for all Americans whether black, white, brown, red, yellow or whatever. Socialism only leads to tyranny, misery and failure.

We had that for 8 years. I agree this is a long fight, I intend to win this one like the last one. Neighbor to Neighbor at the doors exposing you and your politicians for the racist, ignorant, evil people you are.

[Syrinx]

1. K&R

[EFerrari]

2. We don't believe you are all racists, Jim, we know you are.

And YOU ARE the professional victim class, so abused by those black people and by "illegals" and by them Muslins and by "feminazis" but most of all, by them edjumacated libruls about whom you piss and moan 25/7.

What an idiot. Hey -- that should be our next t-shirt: Help a victim, turn a Republican.

lol

[Berry Cool]

18. You're right--talk about professional victims, no one whines more than they do

about how they have had their rights taken away. Why? Because they were forced to share those rights with others instead of just hoarding them to themselves. Now they feel put upon and victimized. What a bunch of "sucky babies," as the Canadians would say.

[krispos42]

3. "Socialism: I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Communism is a subset of socialism in the same way that fascism is a subset of capitalism. Or to put it another way: a square is mecessarily a rectangle but a rectangle is not necessarily a square.

[azurnoir]

4. that will just confuse them -a square is but a huh??!!??!? n/t

[AllentownJake]

5. Agreed these assholes don't understand basic math

Let alone geometry.

[MrModerate]

6. Robinson is a simpleton-polemicist . . .

And he's among the most articulate of the FReeper bunch.

Because over time, his site has driven off -- not the center-left (who've always been banned) -- but any thoughtful person whatsoever, including those on the right and the far right. All FR has left are troglodytes, faux Heinleiners, and mouth breathers.

And this deterioration is in direct parallel with the deterioration of the Republican party and the conservative right in general. They've traded principle for advantage and have ended up with neither.

While FreeRepublic is mostly blather, it is threatening in two ways, one existential and the other unpredictable. The first is that their moldy bile continues to degrade public discourse (luckily with reduced effect as they grow increasingly marginal); and the second that they are grooming the next Timothy McVeigh even as we speak.

[Greyhound]

7. Heinleiners? n/t

[MrModerate]

11. Science fiction author Robert A. Heinlein had a stock character . . .

a sort of polymath often referred to as the "competent man:"

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." (Time Enough for Love)

Many people of a libertarian bent (emphasis on the "bent") aspire to such competence but fall short when they discover it would require them to put down the game controller, change out of their pajamas, and move out of their parents' basement.

Hence "faux Heinleiners."

[Greyhound]

13. And I thought I'd read nearly all of his works.

I guessed I must have missed some. Was it one of his later books? Once he started going senile in the early 80s I stopped reading him.

[MrModerate]

25. I'm pretty sure I *have* read all of them . . .

And yes, his later work is kind of bathetic -- all of his favorite characters are brought back home to die (or live forever, which is pretty much the same thing). I'm not sure he was getting senile, per se, just maudlin as he watched his death steal up on him. He was ill for more than a decade, and knowing exactly what you're going to die from can wreck your morale.

One of his later novels (and the one I quoted from), Time Enough for Love, is actually quite good. It brings back (resurrects, one might say) the character of Lazarus Long, introduced in Methusela's Children (early 1940s) and allows him numerous picaresque adventures all over the galaxy. Somewhat heavy handed and didactic (like all of Heinlein's later work) it's nevertheless a page turner and thoughtful at the same time. Several of the other later novels are unreadable (even though I read 'em): these include The Number of the Beast, Job, and Friday.

If I were you I'd take a look at TEFL, The Cat Who Walks Through Walls, and (bathos notwithstanding) To Sail Beyond the Sunset, because they're all part of the same universe and bring together a lot of loose threads from his earlier works. TSBTS is clearly written by an author who knows it's his last book, and there is a certain color to it outside of the actual story that's worth experiencing.

[Greyhound]

34. Thanks. Heinlein started me reading SF when I picked up The Puppet Masters

at random in my elementary school library. I loved it and read everything he'd written that I could get my hands on, then I went on to reading almost nothing but SF for many years. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, and of course, Stranger in a Strange Land are two of my all-time favorites and, despite that god-awful film, I thought Starship Troopers was really enjoyable.

I'll always be grateful to him for turning me on to SF, but I thought his later work was pretty awful. I read Job: A Comedy of Something or Other and Number of the Beast (vaguely clever idea, but...) when they came out and Friday was one of the very few books in my life that I just couldn't finish. It was particularly disappointing for me because of the soft spot he created for himself in my heart, being my first and all.

I will take your advise and read those two in the next few weeks.

[and-justice-for-all]

8. Their actions and comments show that they are racist bigots..nt

[AllentownJake]

9. Yes and their justification

is the typical bullshit justification they have used for years.

[and-justice-for-all]

10. they are bloody deranged...nt

[saigon68]

12. Sweet

[POAS]

14. Why do they always conflate these two things==

"We do believe in capitalism and freedom."


Like conjoined twins you never see them apart!

[Mari333]

15. are they recieving disability from the govt?

just wondering. do any of them have disability payments? thats socialism
do they pay taxes that fund a fire dept in his area? thats socialism
do any of them get medicare? thats socialism
do any of them pay for police protection, public schools, ? thats socialism
do any of them use the post office or public library? thats socialism

of course, if they dont use or pay for any of those, they get a pass.

[AllentownJake]

16. I didn't want to go personal on Rimjob

This seemed like a Freeper statement of beliefs.

[Mari333]

17. i will change it to 'them'

my mom started in on that 'socialism' stuff. I asked her if I could please have her social security checks since she didnt seem to want them. she said no! I said, well, mom, thats socialism. she got it but changed the subject.

[mitchum]

22. That faking and malingering piece of shit needs to get up out of that chair...

and walk.
And knock off that whole sympathy/victim shtick

[mitchum]

23. You know he does, but it is not enough...

that's why he also has to fleece the troglodytes who financially contribute to his site.

[many a good man]

19. We are NOT a great country

Right wingers are standing in the way of this country achieving greatness.

[Lil Missy]

20. marked for later reading

[lpbk2713]

21. An irresponsible and illogical broadbrush statement on a grand scale .. LOL.

As if to say ALL rethug wingnuts are THIS WAY and ALL Dems are THIS WAY.

Typically foolish and transparent. Just the way OxyRush would have said it.

[rateyes]

24. Hey RimJob, you freaking dumbass, even employer provided GROUP health insurance

is SOCIALISM.

[blondeatlast]

26. Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

That comes straight out that Bible you and your gang of pissant bullies love so much, Rimmer. I know you like to skip the unpleasantness of Matthew, who called out the hypocrisy of many so-called Christians, but it's there nonetheless.

[AllentownJake]

27. As a Christian

The RW version of Christianity has always offended me. Very deeply. It is like this guy Jesus never walked the earth with some of them.

[NRaleighLiberal]

28. Just so we all know, THIS is the dude...and this is his company! (squeamish, avert eyes!)

[lpbk2713]

31. Look up 'loosers' in the dictionary and you'll see this pic next to the def.

*Freeper spelling of course.


Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go :puke:


Ed: WTF is he doing with a horse in his house?

[RollWithIt]

29. I found the last comment to be most interesting, describing this as "war"

I think that is the biggest difference between your average progressive and these right wing nutjobs. Most of us look at it as an intellectual debate, they are ready to start shooting people they don't agree with.

[Cali_Democrat]

30. Brilliant!!! n/t

[MrScorpio]

32. Capitalism is the bane of Democracy

But, I'm sure that he objects to any word associated with "democrat". or such

[Usrename]

33. Greed is not the solution to every problem.

"We do not believe that government is the solution to our problems."

You believe that greed is the solution to our problems.

[DearAbby]

35. Whaaaaaaa Fucking Whaaaaaa

Go blow your snot bubbles at someone who gives a shit. Jim Rob thinks anyone who has two brain cells to rub together, would give a wild rat's ass what he thinks...Gawd damn pond scum, bottom feeder. God I wished evolution worked faster, these dead end breeders would be extinct by now.

[XemaSab]

36. The ironic part is that JimRob's been in a wheelchair for 33 years from muscular dystrophy

As a veteran, I'm sure he's gotten help from the VA, and the ADA has undoubtedly made his life better. He went to public schools his whole life, and learned computers in the navy.

You'd think he'd have some sympathy for others, but you'd be wrong.

[lpbk2713]

37. Probably like Limbaugh ...

... he learned early on how to milk the gullible and those that are easily deceived with a line of bullshit.