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[Indigo Blue]

After reading these replies so critical of John Edwards (with the exception of Ken Burch's reply), some pretty childish criticisms at that, I've decided to delete this post. You can have at John Edwards somewhere else. Here's the link to the article if anyone wants to read it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/17/AR2009061701844.html

It's pretty obvious that "There aren't many votes in helping poor people." And it's pretty damn obvious that there's not much compassion, either. It's also pretty damn obvious that I don't belong here. And, no, I won't let the door hit me.

FYI, I don't have a 'A thick skin' either.

[tritsofme]

1. You can at least count on one thing from Hedge Fund Johnny.

He manages to keep his name in the news.

[Ken Burch]

2. Despite his personal shortcomings, John Edwards was a hero for speaking out for the poor

And he's right that it hasn't been a choice many other politicians have made in recent years(it may also be because they remember where it got Bobby Kennedy).

That's why I supported Jesse Jackson in 1984 and 1988. He was the only candidate in either of those campaigns who gave a damn about poverty. All Mondale and Dukakis cared about was the "not scaring the 'burbs" and then they lost all the 'burbs anyway. And Bill Clinton actually ran AGAINST the poor, with his George Wallace-like welfare proposals and code phrases on "the forgtten middle class"(by which he only meant the WHITE middle class, of course.)

We need people like Edwards, but without the demons, if this party is to go on.

[bluestateguy]

3. Here's the harsh truth

Poor people don't vote in as large of numbers as middle class and well off people do.

Also, poor folks are more likely to be less educated than better off people, meaning they are easier to fool and distract in an election campaign with bullshit culture war issues like gay marriage and flag burning.

That may not be the politically correct assessment, but it's true.

[bobbolink]

17. Stop the damn stereotypes! This kind of crap wouldn't be tolerated about gays or minorites, so STOP

Who were those people in the elections of '00, '04 and '06 who stood in lines to vote for ..... 3 hours, 5 hours, 7 hours and even 9 hours???? Were those rich suburbanites???? Hardly.... !! They were heroes to stand in line just to vote for YOUR candidates, and yet you come here and smear us?! Damn it!

Did you EVER stop to think that if you'd actually ADDRESS us, and work for OUR platforms, that you might find more VOTES??????

You obviously don't know us. I'm very poor, and yet I'm probably more educated than YOU. And since when did education equal rights? Or are you wanting to go back to tests to determine eligibility for voting?

You are neither politically correct, nor accurate, nor "true"

YOU are a case in point of how badly "progressives" are messing up this country!

[Obamanaut]

23. How in the world can one come up with such a statement as this

on an anonymous internet message board "...and yet I'm probably more educated than YOU..."?

There is nothing here but a screen full of words.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

4. "It was real, 100 percent real"

Except for the part that wasn't.

...And now he’s shutting down the scholarship program he started for poor kids at a North Carolina high school.

Edwards launched “College For Everyone” in 2005, when he started running for the Democratic nomination for 2008. Through the Center for Promise and Opportunity Foundation — a non-profit Edwards started and funded — the tuition was paid for 190 kids who wouldn’t otherwise have gone to college.

http://wonkette.com/401659/john-edwards-screwing-high-school-kids-too

This guy is a douche of the first order.

[zalinda]

13. Did you READ the Observer article?

"Pamela Hampton-Garland, the director of College for Everyone, said the Greene County effort was always designed as a three-year pilot."

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/higher_education/story/1160097.html

So 190 kids went to college who wouldn't have gotten the chance, and a third class will be able to take advantage of the program this fall.........and Edwards is a douche?

zalinda

[Tansy_Gold]

5. Put your money where your mouth is, Johnny

Get out there and work for what you believe in. Redeem yourself. Lobby, without pay, to get real health core reform passed. Write op-ed pieces, letters to the editor. Write a goddamn book and donate the royalties to charity.

But whatever you do, Johnny, DO NOT FUCKING WHINE. You got no right to whine.

You want health car for all? Then start promoting the fiscal policies that will fund it. Taxes on capital gains. Taxes on inherited wealth. Go after the fat cats who live in sybaritic glory while the mill hands and the miners, the cab drivers and the data entry temps struggle paycheck to paycheck, day to day, minute to minute.

There are those who will criticize you for stayin' in the limelight. If you want it that bad, honey, you damn well better earn it.

Otherwise you're no better'n Sarah Palin, tradin' your looks for attention.




Tansy Gold

[tkmorris]

6. Don't you let these people run you off Indigo

Reccing your post.

[bobbolink]

18. Why? All of us can only take so much. Those of us who've tried to work for poverty here at DU

have been ignored or attacked for years.

Then they whine and wonder why they can't get more votes come election time.

DUH.

[cwydro]

7. Discussion here unfortunately sometimes takes on a

mean-spirited tone.

If someone personally attacks you, then you should alert on that post.

But you shouldn't let what people think about John Edwards make you leave this site.

I hope you decide to stick around.

[TuxedoKat]

8. Please don't leave

I've had some rude and gratuitous comments aimed at me a few times here and it does really hurt
so I mostly just lurk and comment very carefully. I have super thin skin too.

DU is a good place for the most part. Thanks for the article on JE, I used to support him and
although he disappointed me, I don't think ill of him. People make mistakes and I'd rather forgive
than carry around bad feelings about anyone.

[HughMoran]

9. K&R!

See! We can still have fun with these sorts of posts ;)

[EFerrari]

10. Hi there, sweetie. I'm sorry I missed your post.

:hi:

[Political Heretic]

11. From that thread "A thick skin" -----

"I'm with you--I refuse to distort myself to fit in with a sick culture."

Well said.

[HughMoran]

12. Hey! Let's alternately rec and unrec this post, see how many times it can hit the GP

Maybe we can set a record or something!!

[mascarax]

14. Thanks for posting the link to the article (n/t)

[H2O Man]

15. I hope

that you stay.

[wildflower]

16. This is what really bothers me:

From the article:

It bothers Nichol that Edwards's many skeptics have used his troubles to justify their cynicism. It is a sentiment shared by Edwards's former advisers, many of whom have found jobs in the Obama administration and on Capitol Hill. "People say in effect, 'Well, John Edwards fell off a cliff so poverty obviously isn't a question for American politics,' " Nichol said. "How that can be? I don't understand."

Whatever one thinks of Edwards as a person (and I'll admit I don't trust him much), it is such a shame that his personal life will give people a reason to ignore and dismiss the issue of poverty. That is the real tragedy in the whole mess.

[bobbolink]

20. It's bullshit. "Progressives" as a group don't give a shit about poverty, and will use

any excuse to cover their asses.

That's what "thick skin" buys...... lack of compassion.

Lack of heart.

Lack of humanity.

[karynnj]

21. This is just spin from Nichols

He is really defending his own willingess to lie and deceive to support a fraud. There are many politicians who have spent a career trying to help the poor - and they didn't do it by voting for bankruptcy bills.

Take Ted Kennedy as an example. If you want someone who did good things, but whose image is tarnished by some bad things - take Dodd. He at least voted for the poor.

[inna]

19. please don't leave! :HUG: and rec#5! :)

:hug:

[bobbolink]

22. It's upsetting that person after person who tries to work for poverty on DU gets run out of town.

So much for "hope".

:cry: