I think a lot of people here usually get fired up in defense of Obama when many of us on the left are hypercritical of his every move. I get the whole, "he's our guy" argument even if I feel it's inadequate to just accept whatever BS is thrown our way all because that D next to his name gives him some sort of immunity.
But one thing I dismiss out of hand is that our criticizing him is the exact same thing as what the Freepers are doing.
Our disagreements with Obama are almost always based on policy decisions. There is almost always a substantive argument behind our criticism. Whether it be the poorly chosen, corporate-connected Administration picks he selects for certain posts, his defense of Bush's State Secrecy laws, Illegal Wiretapping or refusal to allow prosecutions against the war criminals in the previous Administration... or if it's refusal to even discuss Single Payer when it is clearly the best plan (and if you disagree, ask the CBO to do a report on the costs... I have a very strong feeling you'll be refuted very fast). All of these are legitimate policy debates and yes, it is our job to hold his feet to the fire on these.
On the other side, they have no such substance. It's about everything but legitimate policy debate. They trash his daughters, or the shoes his wife was wearing or a picture taken out of context that supposedly shows him ogling a 16 year old (it doesn't but the truth never mattered to the Freeptards).
They're still arguing the same incredibly phony and asinine premises that they were spouting in the General Election... namely that Obama is some foreign born terrorist.
Now, for all of the criticism you hear from me on the Administration, which I freely admit will continue as long as I disagree with him policy wise, you would NEVER hear such an argument.
The following email got to my inbox and beneath it you will see my response in bold... I responded to all 100 or so assholes that forwarded the message previously. How many do you think responded? None. Cowards, one and all. Yes it is VERY STRONGLY WORDED, but honestly I don't care about offending them and as you can tell by the incendiary way that they wrote their email, they obviously didn't care about offending Democrats. And yes, he's MY President. I voted for him. I WANT him to succeed. I just wish he would listen to progressives more in making the choices that affect us all....
Subject: FW: Very Interesting questions
Very Interesting questions
More questions, and this time some good questions.
While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth
issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama
answering one simple question:
What passport did he use when he was shuttling between
New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981,
without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the
price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and
Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Cus tom s and
Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions,
they must have answers.
It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible.
Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in
1981.
Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof
that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.
And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to
prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being
adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter,the American people need to know how he
managed to become a "natural born"
American citizen between 1981 and 2008..
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America ,
as illustrated by his speech before Congress
and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress,
the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in
Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this and go into your cocoon.
If you do care then Forward this!
My Response:
A cocoon indeed. Listen to yourselves. Nonsensical ramblings from people that don't want to admit that a black man is their President. We all know how shameful it is to call someone a "Nigger" so now you people have resorted to claiming "terrorist" because it's easier.
Barack Obama is not some radical Muslim terrorist. No matter how much you want him to be.
Snopes will clear up any doubt of course, though for those of you that watch Fox News, listen to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck or otherwise deny reality, I must warn you that Snopes only deal with facts and as Stephen Colbert put it: Facts have a well known liberal bias.
You all make me laugh pretty hard. Now you give a fuck about debts and deficits. Bush ran up more debt than all 42 previous Presidents COMBINED. Did you care then? Nope. You waved your flag, stuck a Support the Troops Bumper Sticker on and called anyone questioning the War of Choice in Iraq unpatriotic. The Wars have cost us $3+ Trillion, yeah way more than Obama has spent trying to save us from Bush's mess.
As Jim Cornette put it so aptly, Republicans ran us into the ditch and now they want to complain about the cost of the tow truck. Boo fucking hoo.
You didn't care when Bush's corporate buddies were using their Republican majorities in Congress as their own personal piggy bank and using the wars, not to find Bin Laden but to war profiteer and keep it going as long as possible so the CEOs of contracting companies could get rich.
You also didn't give two shits when those Soldiers you claimed to support saw Republicans cut their VA health benefits, keep them indefinitely on stop loss, didn't send them over with proper armor or equipment and were given water by Dick Cheney's company Halliburton that was contaminated.... with the remains of the dead.
Now you want to throw your tea parties and act like you're some Patriotic American who is cut from the cloth of our forefathers. Franklin, Jefferson and Washington would puke at the sight of you.
Obama has to raise taxes... OH NO! Oh wait it's only been aimed at the people making $200,000 or more. Too bad most of you don't make that in your double wide trailers.
CEOs and Republicans RAPED this country the last 8 years. Our children and grandchildren get to face a financial mess that 8 years of Obama's best plans may not be enough to overturn in their favor, since 8 years of Bush and 25 years of trickle down economics has put us right back at the verge of the great depression. They have a weak auto industry and no manufacturing jobs to look forward to, thanks to the Greed over all culture the GOP and CEOs endorsed. They have an environment in shambles thanks to allowing corporate polluters to do as they wish the past 8 years. Wages are in the toilet and health care, if an employer cares to offer it at all has blown so sky high that even people that are insured can't afford to get care because their deductibles don't cover enough.
The disaster you're talking about happened on YOUR watch.
So MOST Americans, not the 25% dimwits like yourselves, WOKE THE FUCK UP.
Obama won. AND IT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE.
Get your KKK or Neo Nazi rallies going and see if any of them have any tea bags for you to wave around.
Or maybe see if they have a job for you. Since Bush decided that Americans didn't need those anyway.
What a great fella YOUR IDIOT was.
-Rp
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