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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:28 AM
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It's Not Often That You Have Banner Ads That Entice You To Commit A Crime - EVONY
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 09:34 AM by Vinnie From Indy
Has anyone else noticed that the EVONY game banner ads here on DU entice the reader to steal from their employer by playing the game at work instead of working? They even offer in the ad that they have constructed the game to be played surreptitiously while at work.

I just find it odd that an advertiser would be so blatant about asking potential clients to commit theft. WTF is up with that?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:31 AM
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1. I don't know. I didn't see it. I have a star.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:35 AM
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2. That is not theft and not a crime.
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 09:35 AM by endarkenment
You might get fired, you cannot be arrested for goofing off. Nice try though.

p.s. did you post from work?
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:39 AM
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3. Now, now, don't be shortsighted.
It MAY be actionable to defraud your employer by accepting a paycheck for work not done, it MAY just not have been tested. And if it is, the Congress needs to watch out.
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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:43 AM
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4. The day THAT happens is the day the world ends...
You get fired and the next day the company sues you to recoup all previous pay or bonuses on the grounds that you did not do any work.

Really?

Think about trying to make that case for a second.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:39 AM
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25. Then I will counter-sue because I didn't get the raise I deserved
and my boss was a poopy-head. I mean why the hell did you give me that computer if it wasn't to download and play games?! It is a clear-cut case of entrapment your honor.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:48 AM
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5. It is still defined as theft regardless if there have ever been arrests for such a thing
I just found the ad unique as I have never seen a banner ad so nakedly appeal to customers to steal from their employers AND offer to assist in the crime by making the game surreptitiously playable.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:53 AM
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7. How about this...
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:56 AM
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8. No it is not.
Please show some evidence for your assertion that using a computer at work to goof off is defined as a misdemeanor, felony, or any sort of criminal violation of any law.

Are you posting from work?
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Terry in Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:57 AM
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10. "Is defined" by whom?
Certainly the employer class would like to see it defined as "theft," but it's a shaky case at best.

Are you shilling for your overlords, maybe?

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:10 AM
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16. Makes ya wonder how he feels about paychecks that are short.
It's funny; my supervisor once tried to make this exact argument. It never came up again when it was pointed out that some people's checks were short by several hundred dollars because another idiot supervisor entered the wrong information into the system. To twist the knife, it was also pointed out that he, the one making the inane comment about "stealing from the USPS" by chatting during a lull, was contractually obligated to not actually do any work involving actually moving the mail.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:20 AM
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19. Bullshit
Prove, please.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:28 AM
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22. I concede!
I posted this without looking for any cases of prosecution for unauthorized use of the internet at work. I assumed that using an employers computer systems for personal use was theft.

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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:51 AM
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6. there are DU'ers who read this board from work - everyday
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:58 AM
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11. I think folks are missing my point
My point is simply that I have never seen a banner ad so blatantly ask potential customers to commit a crime. That's it! I am making no statements about anything other than that odd aspect of the EVONY ads.

Also, why would EVONY include in their ad that a user can play the game in secret if they didn't think the use of their product while at work was a bad, possibly illegal, activity?
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:59 AM
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13. Um...it's not a crime.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:12 AM
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17. We get your point just fine; it's just that you're wrong and it's not a crime n/t
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:34 AM
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24. I could find no prosecutions for this activity
I concede. I assumed it was theft to use an employers computer systems for activities other than work.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:56 AM
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9. It is OUTRAGEOUS!
I say, posting this from work.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:59 AM
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12. I'm reading this and replying from work...
...and I am OUTRAGED as well.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:03 AM
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14. A recent study says that surfing the internet makes employees MORE productive, not less productive.
Perhaps the employer should be paying DU.

Facebook, YouTube at work make better employees: study

MELBOURNE (Reuters) - Caught Twittering or on Facebook at work? It'll make you a better employee, according to an Australian study that shows surfing the Internet for fun during office hours increases productivity.

The University of Melbourne study showed that people who use the Internet for personal reasons at work are about 9 percent more productive that those who do not.

Study author Brent Coker, from the department of management and marketing, said "workplace Internet leisure browsing," or WILB, helped to sharpened workers' concentration.

"People need to zone out for a bit to get back their concentration," Coker said on the university's website (www.unimelb.edu.au/)

"Short and unobtrusive breaks, such as a quick surf of the Internet, enables the mind to rest itself, leading to a higher total net concentration for a days' work, and as a result, increased productivity," he said.

...

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE5313G220090402

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:05 AM
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15. I saw the ads and even signed up
but I didn't feel like learning how to play. :)
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:18 AM
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18. I don't do any personal browsing from my work computer anymore. Moved it all to the iPhone.
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 10:20 AM by tritsofme
Which I am posting from right now.

I figure no reason to leave any sort of trail of my personal affairs.

People goof off all the time at work, they don't need a banner ad to tell them to.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:21 AM
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20. Who knew that Dwight Schrute posted at DU? n/t
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:25 AM
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21. Maybe you should change your wording to say "morally wrong" and
not criminal.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:31 AM
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23. You are right. I was a bit hasty in calling this a crime
I guess it is the old adage "never assume anything" in play. I would edit the OP, but the time has passed for editing.

Cheers!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 11:03 AM
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26. goofing around at work is a crime?
:rofl:

Good one, Vinnie From Indy!
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 11:33 AM
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27. In my line of work...
where my hours are charged directly to government contracts, it is a crime for me to mis-appropriate my time worked.
I'm currently on my lunch hour. If, for example, I did some browsing and posting on DU but charged that time to one of my contracts I work on, that's fraud.
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