“Unit Was So Secret That Even The Former CIA Director George Tenet Did Not Control Its Activities”

[babylonsister]

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/07/cheneys-secret-unit-was-so-secret-that.html

Cheney’s Secret “Unit Was So Secret That Even The Former CIA Director George Tenet Did Not Control Its Activities”


We know that the new director of the CIA, Leon Panetta, was kept in the dark for months about the secret counterterrorism program.

But Scotland's leading newspaper - the Scotsman - has a stunning new revelation:

The unit was so secret that even the former CIA director George Tenet did not control its activities, according to reports yesterday.

So even the the then-current head of the CIA was out of the loop.

Cheney staged a coup and took control of the reigns of government, cutting not only Congress - but also the appointed leaders of the CIA - out of the loop.

Scotsman article:

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Cheney-39ran-secret--black.5452141.jp

[rubberducky]

1. K&R

[NightWatcher]

2. then that makes it a rogue op. and Dick is guilty

[KakistocracyHater]

34. how about "Death Squad NegroPontius"?

we know those things just seem to happen nearby.....

[Eric J in MN]

3. With that much control over the CIA, Cheney could get the CIA...

...to produce bogus intelligence that Iraq had WMD.

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Not to mention domestic intelligence--aka fishing for blackmail material

that could be used to control Democratic politicians, a la J. Edgar.

[DaveinJapan]

5. If true, I don't understand something.

Why on Earth wouldn't those involved (Cheney or whoever) neatly and quietly shut down the program when a Democrat got elected to the White House?

What's to gain by leaving it in place, only to be (certainly) discovered later by their opponents?

[FarCenter]

24. You are assuming that the unit wasn't still reporting to Cheney

If this was an ultra-secret rogue operation, an election wouldn't necessarily affect the operation.

[MadMaddie]

6. Well I hate to bring it up but if Cheney was directing

a secret government within the official government then logic says that it is not far fetched to believe that 9/11 could have been coordinated within our own borders.

This CIA story may explain why Valerie Plame was so casually thrown to the side with barely a peep to defend her. The collapse of intel in the Middle East......could have directly lead the attack on the US.

This is just beginning...Holder is going to have to investigate....I fear that what they will find will be more devastating then we can imagine.

[jimshoes]

11. I can imagine some pretty horrific stuff and

I hope it ALL comes out and the dick finds himself in prison orange for a very long time. Oh and rummy, and turdblossom, and junior, and the most despicable david addington, and berto gonzalez, and fieth, perle, wolfowitz and all the other PNAC sons a bitches that tried to steal this country.

[JDPriestly]

31. I read somewhere that it concerned seeking out Al Qaeda leaders

for purposes not involving detentions and trials and all that messy legal stuff.

[blueworld]

7. Thank God for Scot journalists, Bunny Blitzer is trembling in his burrow

I've almost given up hope that "the base" will allow any criticism of anything Bush/Cheney/GOP, and the MSM guard dogs only allow stupid, irrelevant pundits through the gate, but...

BUT! The VP of the US doesn't have any authority to tell the CIA to do any bloody thing anytime anywhere, let alone violate the law!!! He can't even write a parking ticket! He can't change the office decor or the pictures on the walls! Even if the repulsive Republicans are devoted to the CIA program, aren't there ANY who feel slightly offended that their authority was completely ignored?

I simply cannot understand how loyalty to one's party overrides their oath of office. If Cheney ordered the whole bunch emasculated would they line up & drop their drawers???? They should have been briefed! They were ignored as irrelevant leakers who can't be trusted with the info to do their jobs! He pissed all over them! Repeatedly!

Can we get a bipartisan Amen NOW????? :rant:

[wayfaringstranger]

8. Unit was so secret....

Wow ! Only The Scotsman knew about it !!

B-) Some secret source they accessed by bribing him/her with haggis - and - a look under a Scotsman's kilt.

[bertman]

27. The unit was so secret

the members weren't even allowed to know their own names.



B-)

[Duer 157099]

9. Hey, maybe the program was to make bogus bin Laden videos!

I know many people believe some of those videos to be fake, maybe this was the program doing it?

:shrug:

[Hutzpa]

10. Bingo !!

remember the beheading of Nick Berg, there where some here who pointed out some facts
regarding the killers about their orange jump suits and how their dialect is suspect.

Another thing, notice how the Osama videos have stopped surfacing.

[Duer 157099]

13. The only thing is, I was never convinced that any were fake

I tried hard, very hard, to examine the evidence, and I came away unconvinced that they were fakes.

[Hutzpa]

15. So did I

the evidence where just too coincidental for my liking..... maybe its me
not believing in coincidence.

[Spoutwell]

19. what were you looking for?

the fat osama with the watch certainly looked 'fake' to me, not to mention the convenient timing of their release.

either way, it is plainly obvious that this whole war on terror is fake and that the real reasons are never articulated (well, cept that 1 time that greenspan slipped up)

[Duer 157099]

20. That was one of the things I was looking at

I was doing image morphing of faces.

I was able to morph the real bin laden face so it looked like the "fake" one, and conversely, was able to morph the "fake" one so that the features aligned with the real one.

[Spoutwell]

22. i can morph a cat to a dog pretty seamlessly

thats what morphing apps are good at.

[Duer 157099]

23. Well, I wasn't technically using any morphing app

But your point makes my point. The videos themselves provided no proof that they were either authentic or faked.

I looked at the supposed fake and saw that it was very simple to distort an image such that it appeared as it did.

Applying Occam's razor, it was simpler to conclude that the video was authentic but distorted. imho.

[LooseWilly]

12. Yet more pesky information to ignore...

"Mr Obama made the alleged abuse of power by the Bush administration a central theme of last year's presidential election.

But as he tries to implement controversial economic stimulus and healthcare reform laws, a traumatic inquiry into the previous administration's activities seems to be a battle he wants to delay."

I think Mr Obama needs an "ignore" button. Hopefully Skinner is on the job... :tinfoilhat:

[wiggs]

14. Fitzgerald held the possibility of future indictments open, correct? He

mentioned that new information might lead him to re open the Plame case?

Also: we now know that the surveillance program had little to do with terrorism and that citizens and journalists were targeted. Are we also going to find out that the secret CIA program targeted non-terrorists? What about leaders and businessmen in other countries who stood in the way of Halliburton or KBR or Dole or GE business?

Again...if we're hearing about it in the press, the reality is likely to be much, much worse. When will we start assuming the worst rather than giving the benefit of the doubt? When will MSM assume that Sibel knows a HELL of a lot about 9/11, Hastert, Turkey, FBI corruption, etc and that she's been gagged simply to protect asses and not the country?

[CJCRANE]

16. "Speculation is rife that the unit was trained

for the assassinations of foreign leaders suspected of aiding terrorists".

The rest of the MSM said the unit was trained to go after al-Qaeda members.

[myrna minx]

17. Damn. I wonder if Cheney is going to show up on local Fargo talk radio like he did

on his anti Obama tour or did Darth slink back into his spider hole? :rofl:

[Spoutwell]

18. so can Joe Biden do the same thing?

or does the president have to approve it first?

either way do our laws mean nothing?

will anyone be held to account?

[suffragette]

21. This, oddly, has made me think of Judith Miller

Something in the way she was also not controlled by her bosses at the NYT, which she crowed about when calling herself Miss Run Amok.

And now we have this CIA unit running amok.
Seems to be a pattern any time Cheney is involved.

[wroberts189]

29. Ahh yes Judith ..one of the last to have contact with a certain Dr. Kelly

Right before he suddenly decided to go for a walk and kill himself ...right after he was exposed as leaking that there were no WMD's.

Hmmm....

[suffragette]

33. "many dark actors playing games"

from his email to Judith.

Yes - things that make one go hmmm.

Maybe through the confluence of the doctors demanding investigation into his death and the new info coming out, we'll find out more about those Aspen roots Libby wrote of.

[conscious evolution]

25. What is the legal term for

when someone usurps the goverment?
Insurrection?
Treason?
Something else?
I ask because,whatever black op he was running aside,usurping our goverment is or should be a crime itself.

[FarCenter]

26. What did Cheney care about? Oil? Money?

Central Asian oil? MidEast oil? Venezuelan oil?

Economic espionage?

The war on terror is just a means to an end.

[David Zephyr]

28. Thanks for this story.

This is such a big story, so sweeping that it will be hard for the media to even get a wrap around it for the public.

Thanks for bringing the story here.

[spanone]

30. it was so secret only cheney knew about it....INVESTIGATE N O W

[troubledamerican]

32. Tenet didn't know -- according to Tenet

"According to reports" my ass.

Tenet is in up to his neck. Tenet is a cabal insider along with Cheney, Myers, Hayden, Rumsfeld & Mueller.

[tomp]

35. operation treadstone on steroids. nt

[old mark]

36. They could have run the entire thing on a Presidential Finding,

essentialy a memo from the President that commands operations that are outside of congressional oversight and even secret from most of the cabinet and heads of organizations.

It kind of follows from the idea that the President can't do anything that is illegal, because everything the President does is legal by definition.


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[mod mom]

37. Could this be related to Dr Kelly's "suicide"?