While not all Conservatives are racist - I can safely say that all racists are conservatives

[Taverner]

Agree?

[BlooInBloo]

1. I know plenty of non-conservatives who wouldn't be comfortable with their (white) daughter...

dating a black guy.

That's my standard test for being a bigot. And puh-lenty of non-conservatives don't pass it.

[Catherine Vincent]

37. And vice versa

:)

[MellowDem]

46. It's funny...

I was watching a show on BET that was composed of a panel of black males basically "shooting the shit" (and they were also semi-famous in some way, athletes, musicians, scholars) and this subject came up, and all of them except one said quite openly they would be uncomfortable with their daughter dating a white male, which is just sad to me that people are still so comfortable being open about their ignorance and bigotry. But, I'm guessing they voted Democrat. I guess you could say they still have very conservative views in some things though.

The good news is that younger people seem to care a lot less than their neurotic parents.

[Raineyb]

48. Funny how you only seem to notice bigotry from black people but never

recognize it in white people.

Funny that.

[MellowDem]

49. Oh boy...

Actually that is the only time I've ever seen *anyone* of any race say publicly they would be uncomfortable with that, much less on television. I was trying to illustrate that in many ways that idea is still quite common in general if it is being spouted on TV like it's no big deal. I'm quite sure there are many whites who feel the same way, believe you me. I'm guessing one is my uncle, who though he has never said it, has said other such things as "Obama is a Muslim" etc. etc.

Also, it was in response to the OP. The panel was obviously not "Conservative" in the freeper sense yet still held bigoted views, which goes against his assertion.

If you want, I can also point out instances of bigotry in Asians, Hispanics, etc. But you never seem to get freaked out about that. Funny that.



:eyes:

[Raineyb]

53. Actually, I'm not interested in hearing instances of bigotry in Asians or Latinos either

I'm just wondering why whenever race is mentioned you go out of your way to try to point out ways in which people of color are being bigoted according to your standard yet seem always to have some reason why you can't see racism perpetrated by white people.

It's as though you're under the impression that if you can point out instances of other people being bigoted perhaps the focus on white people, you know the ones who have most of the power and run the institutions which perpetuate racism in the first place, will be averted. It's typical behavior of racists yet you continue to claim that you're not one.

Funny that.

[Tan Gent]

2. Unsure. What is your definition of racist?

?

[Recursion]

30. And of "a conservative"?

[Tan Gent]

45. Yes. I see little evidence of a consensus on the definition of either word these days.

:shrug:

[Starry Messenger]

59. Your picture is next to the definition.

[MADem]

3. Are anarchists conservatives? There are racist anarchists.

There are racist "libertarians," too--are libertarians conservatives? There are racist communists, too, and racist socialists. Are they conservatives?

I suppose you have to start with a definition of "conservative."

[EndersDame]

4. I agree I have a friend that likes to put on rw postering but when it comes down to it

He does not care if you are gay straight transgendered black latino or white just as long as you are not completely full of shit and you have some sense of loyalty and honor

[Bicoastal]

5. For the most part, yes.

Some liberals are guilty of closet racism that they themselves may not even be aware of, but in terms of being an out-and-out racist? Absolutely.

[rudy23]

6. No. Strongly disagree. Would agree that overall, they are far more racist as a group.

However, I have met too many Democrats--usually those who came up during a more segregated time, but not always--who are bona fide racists.

I do think we have the right to assert that overall, it's not even close. Dems have a few bad apples, but racism is a bedrock of the GOP political strategy & platform.

[Bicoastal]

12. Of course, not all Democrats are liberals...

...and not all people are AWARE of their own racism. I've known white people who talk the talk when it comes to racial equality, but would NEVER set foot above 125th street even in the daytime.

[rudy23]

26. Yep. nt

[MellowDem]

47. I know blacks...

that won't go to certain towns ever either because they are afraid. Doesn't make them racist, just realistic really. People don't go where they are not welcome. I've walked in parts of town where I am singled out, and I won't do it again unless I have to from my bad experiences.

Now if they just won't go there because they hate don't like blacks, that's pretty obvious. But if it's out of fear, while ignorance may be part of it (and classism a lot of it too), it's not necessarily anything to do with them thinking they are better than other races.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

7. I super-disagree with that statement.

[el_bryanto]

8. yeah i have to agree with some of these others

Particularly with the idea that it depends on what your definition of racist is.

Bryant

[jody]

9. Only if people from any ethnic, racial, or other group who hate others are Conservative in your

scheme.

I've read thousands of posts on DU that are full of hatred for anyone who shares a different opinion and by your standard they are Conservative.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

10. Yes

Conservatives are those who want to go back to the way things were. Some only want to go back to the 1950s, but many would prefer the 1850s.

[Lasher]

11. No.

For example, I have a relative who's been a strong Democrat all her life. She wouldn't vote for Obama in the general election because he's black. She wrote in Hillary. I tried to get her to do the right thing but she wouldn't listen.

[BlooInBloo]

13. The contrapositive sounds even stupider: If you'e not conservative, you're not racist...

It's formally equivalent, of course.

:rofl:

[PretzelWarrior]

14. no. I don't believe that.

[MicaelS]

15. Disagree....

There's still an undercurrent of antisemitism with some folks here on DU. And antisemitism is racism as far as I'm concerned.

[Common Sense Party]

16. Nonsense. That's as silly as saying all sexists are conservatives.

You've already forgotten last year's primaries. Lots of racism and sexism.

[Liquorice]

17. That's probably true overall (with exceptions), but sexists show up across the spectrum. nt

[Starry Messenger]

18. I'm sure there are plenty of racist Democrats.

I would call them Conservative.

[Iris]

19. No. n/t

[Kahuna]

20. Nope. Many long time DUers were banned during the primaries..

a lot because of their racism.

[jody]

22. I was beginning to think my memory had failed me. Have a great day. n/t

[realisticphish]

21. No

liberal on one issue != liberal on all issues

[mudplanet]

23. I don't think you can say that safely

but how about, the vast majority of racists identify with republican or other conservative ideals, parties, and policies?

John Stuart Mill famously said, "While it may not be true that all conservative people are stupid, it's certainly true that most stupid people are conservative."

[cherokeeprogressive]

24. Hardly. n/t

[arcadian]

25. Disagree

I know some self described liberals in LA who hate Mexicans and call them racial slurs.

[abluelady]

27. Does the Question Assume all Conservatives are Republican?

I do think all racists are conservative, but they can be conservative Democrats.

[Lost Jaguar]

28. Disagree.

I consider myself generally to the left of President Obama, but I have only begun to recognize my own racism. I always thought I was immune to this ugliness, but a more sophisticated awareness of racism has made me acknowledge, and confront, and hopefully correct, the racist aspect of my personality.

So how do I define this terrible affliction? I don't know if a cogent definition could be done, but I'm now much more aware of the thoughts as they arise. When I mistake dialect or slang for ignorance; when I feel repelled by those in gangsta attire; when I use whiteness as the baseline, the norm, the standard by which all else is judged...this is just the beginning.

A consequence of this growing realization is a growth of compassion for others even more racist than I. My Buddhist practice requires it.

I have long road ahead; but I actually look forward to the journey. I want to know myself better, without vanity and delusion, and to know others just as well, and to love them.

[lumberjack_jeff]

32. Welcome to DU.

Confronting our own biases is the hardest struggle because distrust of others is hardwired into us, and the easiest way to discriminate "us" from "other" is by appearance.

There are good evolutionary reasons for it, but it is a human trait which is no longer socially useful.

[Lost Jaguar]

34. Thanks...

...for the welcome. My candor on this subject hopefully reflects the trust I feel in this company. Indeed, racism may have an evolutionary necessity, now irrrelevant. I believe the term would be "atavistic." In paleolithic times, one's extended family was all that mattered, and "others" were not to be trusted. Nor were they granted any succor, any aid or comfort, from the tribe's meager resources. "Not clan," as the elder dismissively says of the helpless child in the beginning pages of "The Clan of the Cave Bear."

This grim necessity may have been status quo for thousands of years, hence its persistence in our psyche. And our blindness to it.

[Recursion]

29. No, unless you're using a no-true-Scotsman argument. NT

[lumberjack_jeff]

31. Don't agree.

The eugenicists of the day considered themselves the pinnacle of polite progressive society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

[lindisfarne]

33. Look at the social psychology research on racism. You'll find otherwise. n/t

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

35. I have encountered some extremely racist union types

who seemed to consider the purpose of organized labor to protect white men from blacks, hispanics and women of all ethnicities.

[Posteritatis]

36. Hogwash. (nt)

[Raskolnik]

38. Absolutely false.

Conservatives do not have that market cornered by any stretch.

[timeforpeace]

39. I don't think the president's former pastor is a conservative, but maybe.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

40. Certainly not ALL, but 95% looks like a reasonable estimate. -nt

[Skittles]

41. they don't mind being part of a party that is racist in general

that makes them at the very least more agreeable to racism than any decent person can stand

[LeftishBrit]

42. Racism is not a liberal value...

but people who are left/liberal on many issues can still be racist. There are of course gradations of racism - from being anti-racist on principle, but still feeling uncomfortable with people of other races, to blatant hatred of those who are of different races. On the whole, left-liberal people are less likely to be blatant haters - but it can happen. Especially in economically hard times, you can get all the stereotypes coming out: 'the immigrants are taking all our jobs'; 'the Jews control the banks'; 'I didn't get that job because the boss is trying to be politically-correct and favour black people' - etc.

Also, some leftists/liberals seem prepared to tolerate blatant racists when they agree with them on certain specific issues. To get on my pet hobby-horse here: I've seen arguments that the likes of Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul, etc. are not too bad because they oppose the war, and even that Left and anti-establishment Right should team up together to oppose the status quo. In such alliances, lies the risk of propagating fascist movements. I'm not a great fan of 'bipartisanship' with any sort of right-winger.

[ecstatic]

43. No. Remember the PUMAs? Of course, they may no longer be in the party

so you might be partially right. They're the ones who made sure to announce to everyone how they're leaving the Dem party for the first time in their lives due to Obama getting the nomination. :eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

44. You've got it backwards.

The conservative platform is at its heart racist. Ergo, all conservatives are racist.

Plenty of non-conservatives are racist, as evidenced by much of the anti-Obama shit from the last year and a half.

[City Lights]

50. Nope.

Not even close.

[jeffrey_X]

51. No.

I work with a peace-loving, liberal, gay, jewish man who is racist towards African Americans and Asians.

[Blasphemer]

52. No way... nt

[Karenina]

54. That's just RIDICULOUS.

[PVnRT]

55. Nope

My cousin helps run a children's museum, where all of the nice liberals who donate money and put Obama stickers on their cars tell her they don't come certain days because of how "dark" the museum gets. Yep.

[seabeyond]

56. mexicans have problems with blacks. blacks have problems with mexican. both are dem groups

and that is racist.

[Kahuna]

60. Correction: "Some" Mexicans....."Some blacks..." I'm black and I

do not have a problem with Mexicans or anyone else.

[seabeyond]

62. oh lord, yes... some blacks, some mexicans, some women, some men. .... n/t

[Rebubula]

57. Racism

Racism is a worldwide problem and has been since the beginning of time.

Your post is simply short sighted. The world is MUCH bigger than the US and its racial problems.

[McCamy Taylor]

58. Economic pressures (competition for work) can make the most unlikely people racist.

[Raineyb]

61. I would argue then that they weren't all that unlikely n/t

[chaska]

63. Everyone is at least a little racist. It's completely natural. The difference is that

good people fight those impulses.

[proteus_lives]

64. Disagree.

I know plenty of liberal people who are racist.