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tj2001 Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 03:26 PM
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Berlin brothel offers discounts for cyclists
BERLIN (Reuters) – A Berlin brothel has come up with a novel way to negate the impact of the global economic crisis and target a new group of customers at the same time -- offering a discount to patrons who arrive on bicycles.

"The recession has hit our industry hard," said Thomas Goetz, owner of the "Maison d'envie" brothel. "Obviously we hope that the discount will attract more people," he added. "It's good for business, it's good for the environment -- and it's good for the girls."

Customers who arrive on bicycle or who can prove they took public transportation get a 5-euro (4 pounds) discount from the usual 70-euro ($100) fee for 45 minute sessions, Goetz told Reuters. He said the environmentally friendly offer was working.

"We have around 3-5 new customers coming in daily to take advantage of the discount," he said, adding the green rebate has helped alleviate traffic and parking congestion in the neighbourhood...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090713/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_germany_brothel
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 03:41 PM
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1. Do they get free VD drugs as well? nt
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 03:45 PM
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2. Yeah, that's actually not an issue in countries where prostitution is legal and regulated.
The Germans make all the working girls have frequent medical exams.

But please, continue with your typical completely counter-productive American prudery and sexual catastrophizing.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:00 PM
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4. Don't be ridiculous.
Unless they are only giving hand-jobs with surgical gloves, there is a risk of infection. And given that they can't and don't examine these sex workers between every customer, all you are looking at is a method by which those who have been infected can be notified.

There is nothing prudish about that. Having safe sex with a monogamous partner who has been tested and cleared dramatically reduces your chance of being infected. Having safe sex with a person who has numerous sex partners increases your chance of getting a VD. Having safe sex with a person who has numerous sex partners in a day, seriously increases your chances of getting a VD.

Licensed and regulated professional prostitution seriously reduces the risk of contracting a venereal disease over buying the services street prostitutes. That is the extent to which it is effective.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:03 PM
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5. Look at your stats again.
The average German is more likely to contract an STI from a random hook-up than from a licenses prostitute.

You spew crap like it's self-evident "fact". Fine. Prove it.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:11 PM
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11. Sorry, I didn't realize random hook-up was the standard. Carry on. nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:04 PM
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6. dont let ignorance stop you from your self righteousness
check out the results of the countries that have legalized prostitution and all the added problems they have and what theya re doing today to combat the problems legalizing has caused their country.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:05 PM
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7. And outlawing SOLVES those same problems?
Edited on Tue Jul-14-09 04:07 PM by arbusto_baboso
What are you, a third-grader?

I'll say to you what I said to the other poster: you make these claims of problems in the societies with legal prostitution like it should be self-evident. Prove it. Prove it or STFU.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:06 PM
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8. quick research of yours to recognize the problem adn the shift to address the issues
that have arised with legal prostitution. i know the answer. how about you finding it.

preschooler........... bah hahahah
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:08 PM
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9. Sorry, but the bruden of proof is NOT on ME.
Edited on Tue Jul-14-09 04:13 PM by arbusto_baboso
You cite all these problems, so it should be easy for you to provide CONCLUSIVE evidence, no?

Unless, of course, you don't have any....

I'd suggest a book for you: America's War onm Sex by Marti Klein. The author has impeccable credentials and completely explodes a lot of myths that our nation has built up around sex. Myths that are mainly based on our anxieties about sex.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:14 PM
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15. bruden of proof is NOT on ME............. you would rather just remain stupid? n/t
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:17 PM
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17. I'm not the one posting stories debunked by Snopes.
So, who's stupid?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:19 PM
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18. you might want to look how legislation of these countries are addressing the issue.
nothing to do with snopes.

or keep being stupid. that is all, giving you a heads up. i have googled it enough for people that have no interest in reading info cause it does not support their argument.

you can be uninformed, or informed. your choice. and would have taken a lot less time than these 'thought provoking" posts of yours.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:22 PM
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21. YOUR "INFORMATION" is just as faulty as that story debunked by Snopes.
It goes to your credibility, which is pretty much nil at this point.

Now, you can keep up the pissing match, but you won't intimidate, or force me into backing down.

I know I'm right on this, and knowing that, I alos know you can't produce any facts that show otherwise.

But hey, you've had a grudge against since my posts about polyamory. So why don't you just admit you're threatened by anythign sexual that opposes your world-view, and we'll leave it at that? Why? Because you can't be intellectually honest about topics like this.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:13 PM
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12. I said nothing about making it illegal, and frankly I am sick of this technique.
First you inject your own warped interpretation of a post into the post, and then you respond to it as if I had said what you would have had me say. So, how about you respond to what a person actually says or shut the fuck up?
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:14 PM
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14. I'm still trying to figure what you actually DID say...
that is, if you're saying that you didn't say what I replied to. Know what I'm saying?

No, of course you don't.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:20 PM
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20. Your inability to comprehend is my problem? Nope. nt
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:23 PM
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23. But YOUR inability to communicate cleary IS.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:26 PM
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25. Besides the fact that I wasn't even replying to YOUR post when I mentioned legality/illegality.
Nice straw-man, fool.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:20 PM
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19. We don't have to look very far...
to find countries with legalized prostitution. Isn't it still legal in Reno, Nevada? I haven't heard too much about it, so I assume everything is working out O.K. there.

Maybe they could adopt the bicycle discount too.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:29 PM
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28. Anyone who rides a bike to Mustang Ranch deserves a freebee. nt
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:47 PM
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32. Reno? No. Other counties and the cities/towns therein in which
brothels are legal, yes.

I'm afraid bicycle discounts in the desert in locations miles away from populous areas would result in more health problems than STDs.

The rate of STDs occurring in the legal brothels in NV is practically nil. Health rules are stringent.

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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 05:22 PM
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33. Probably the incidence of STD is lower because.....
health rules are very stringent; but even an STD would have to be very hardy to brave all that desert heat. Especially if they can get a germ discount for foreign travel to more temperate locations.

If it is too hot for bicycles though, maybe a hybrid car discount? We don't want to fall behind our allies in the economic incentive department. (I know. Too late for that.) But a hybrid discount could still work.;)

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 05:53 PM
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34. And condom use. Condom use is required, by law, I think.
STDs are also bad for business. You better believe they take that seriously.

As to the rest of your post, I'm too busy laughing to form a coherent response. LOL

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:14 PM
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13. Germany Forcing Unemployed Women into Legalized Prostitution
sounding to me like forced prostitution, you know slave trade. seeing how so many sees it simply as a job to let another human being use their body, i guess maybe you dont see that as an issue



http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/jan/05013106.html

BERLIN, January 31, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - News agencies around the world are carrying the story of a young German woman, a qualified information technologist, who has been told that she faces suspension of her government relief benefits if she refuses to take a ‘job’ as a prostitute in a Berlin brothel.

The unemployed woman, who has not been named, had indicated her willingness to take jobs outside her field and has worked in a café. Britain’s Daily Telegraph reported that the woman, who has not been named, received a phone call offering her an interview for a job. She did not realize the ‘job’ was prostitution in a brothel until she telephoned. After the woman refused, she was told by the job centre that her benefits would be cut off if she did not go into prostitution.

Germany’s unemployment rate has reached the highest levels since reunification in 1990 and its welfare laws have recently been reformed. The new welfare regulations and the legalization of prostitution have combined to create a situation where women can be ‘sold’ by the state into sexual slavery.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:16 PM
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16. Debunked story. Check snopes.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:25 PM
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24. my bad. thanks for the information....
i did read further on the issue in germany though. again, you might try the same
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:26 PM
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26. Is that an apology?
Pfft. You are on ignore from now on. I'm done with you.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:37 PM
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30. are you an ass???? n/t
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 03:48 PM
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3. Marketing to pedal-philes?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:11 PM
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10. I suppose it works out to another reason to bicycle
That is, if you're inclined to patronize such an establishment.
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:29 PM
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29. I'm guessing that if a guy drove up in a Hummer and
asked for a hummer at the pedal-philers discount, the institution would be accommodating.

The main point was to get their story in the news, rather than having to pay for an ad.
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:22 PM
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22. Savvy shoppers will park two blocks away then take the bike out of the trunk!

At a rate of one visit per week, that's a savings of 20 Euros a month. At the end of three months, it's the equivalent of one session FREE.

True story: A visit to the emerg for a badly sprained ankle put me in the curtained cube next to a suffering immigrant man while I waited to get schlepped to x-ray. The curtains were partially open, and I could see the two nurses inspecting the man's mouth which was absolutely HIDEOUS with festering, blistering sores. He seemed in terrible pain and the nurses appeared horrified despite the professionalism. After much questioning and stammering answers, it seemed the man had procured himself a lady of the evening who gave him a most revolting case of genital herpes, in his mouth. Maybe he was lying about the prostitute claim, but still. That sight would've turned me off from hiring one till the end of my days.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:28 PM
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27. The many benefits of going green.
:)
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 04:42 PM
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31. Those poor women. nt
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