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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 04:53 PM
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let's get serious: the secret program is NOT about assasination of Al Queda
Don't be confused: if the program was so secret even Tenet did not know about it, and Cheney was running it until just now, it could not have been about assasinating al Queda.
for the following reasons:

1. we already know about such a program: they were bragging about it a while back
2. Tenet informed the INTELLIGENCE committees, not the Justice Department.
3. we wouldn't be just told what it was so easily, if the intel committees met in private on it.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 04:56 PM
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1. Of course, but the official story is never the truth. Never. nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 04:57 PM
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2. I have been saying this all along.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 04:57 PM
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3. I suspect Cheney was targeting the people involved in his MIHOP.
Same thing with wiretapping BEFORE 9/11.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 05:04 PM
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6. In CIA terms, isn't this called "roll-up" ?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 05:05 PM
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7. That sounds about right.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 06:01 PM
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12. chilling documents there.
I love the euphanisims that agencies come up with for "the other" or "the target"..
"disposees".

Jees...if we had wiped out the CIA, we could have saved millions of lives and zillinos of dollars.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 06:08 PM
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13. This was back in the 50s...

the modern-day intelligence structures are much more complicated, and I believe that the corrupt factions overlap the intelligence agencies of several nations. When it comes to the illicit trade of arms, nukes or drugs, nationalism and religious ideology take a back seat. This was exposed, briefly, during the Iran-Contra scandal.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 06:11 PM
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14. Like Michael Connell? Not MIHOP, I know -- but a fair question.
Connel Knew things -- I am just wondering.


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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 05:01 PM
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4. Yes! What could be so secret about an assassination program against Al Qaida?
Bush was bragging for years that they had killed or captured at least half or two-thirds of the terrorist leaders. The Bush people bragged that they assassinated the No. 2 man and the No. 3 man at least a dozen times. So, what would be the secret here?

Nah, it's bigger than anyone is saying. Probably the ones in the know aren't talking, and the ones talking don't know.

I'm curious about who spilled the beans to Panetta!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 05:01 PM
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5. My guess is still that the reason they didn't brief Congress is they were spying on Congress
Members and staff.
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 05:46 PM
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8. My guess is that it was a domestic assassination ring. n/t
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 05:55 PM
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10. Like all those scientists, and the DC Madam and those small airplane crashes, and.........
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:58 PM
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17. don't forget the many mishaps with gravity originating from building roofs and balconies
that have befallen a number of outspoken critics...
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:36 AM
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20. "The old leap of faith technique"? It goes back a long way. Inconvenient people...
... somehow realise that they should be depressed and off themselves for the convenience of others! (I put the the opening in quotes just in case I was in breach of any 'Maxwell Smart' related copyright law.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 05:57 PM
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11. Your guess makes sense
This is just so Cheneyesque. Secretiveness, no transparency, cloak and dagger, and it would answer a whole lot of questions about why so many key representatives have become invertebrate jelly fish when it comes to courage. Maybe they're actions are based on real fear.

See, sometimes when something comes along and suddenly it makes other puzzling things suddenly make sense, then that something has legs.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:53 PM
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16. I wondered the same thing...
Either a domestic assassination ring or a domestic spying program. Or both. There's definitely more to this story and I hope it surfaces soon. But I also wonder if we will ever know the whole truth...
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 05:50 PM
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9. The chances of the
secret program being this (re: al Queda) are just a tad less than the chances of it being that VP Cheney planning to update Ladybird Johnson's highway beautification program from the 1960s.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 06:12 PM
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15. All those car accidents.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:20 PM
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18. Like the head of a clean/open source voting machine company n/t
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 11:18 PM
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19. Including one involving the death of one of Bush's brothers! n/t
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