Pessimissm on Health Care has nothing to do with Pres. Obama

[Political Heretic]

Can please be allowed to honestly discuss the reality of massive corporate involvement in politics, billions of dollars spent on anti-people (usually referred to with the euphemism "pro-business") lobbying, and Washington politicians deep into the pockets of fortune 500 companies (and MIC contractors)...

WITHOUT

Getting dragged into the common "you hate obama/no I don't" wars so common around here? As far as I'm concerned Obama has campaigned and fought more actively on this issue than any other so far and I've said so:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6074371&mesg_id=6074371

But despite this, the chances of getting even a quality foundation for a better health care system (for those that think we have to do it in stages) is extremely, extremely slim. Why is this the case?

Because for too long we've patted ourselves on the back for our "big tent" philosophy and yet that has meant "Blue Dog" Democrats and DINOs. Rather than fighting to change minds in districts liberals wouldn't win, we instead allowed our party to run candidates that simply take on the positions of conservatives and corporate shills. So when we finally get our "Democratic Majorities" the mean very little.

We ought to be talking more about that, more about the corruption of our entire Washington political system, the stranglehold of lobbyists and how corporations effectively own our government.

We see this playing out in the struggle over health care reform - and criticizing the bullshit, and pointing out the corruption on both sides of the isle has nothing to do with so-called "Obama-bashing."

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1. Is Nancy Pelosi for SIngle Payer?

Was she elected from a district which required her to pander to conservatives?

[Political Heretic]

2. Irrelevant. No one is suggesting there are no representatives standing strong

Only that they are the utter minority.

Also irrelevant since being elected from a district which requires one to pander to conservatives is not the only factor we are up against. We're also up against the overwhelming, jaw-dropping, back breaking impact of the corporate lobby buying politicians and controlling Washington.

Pelosi has plenty of corporate sponsorship, as well as an interest in not rocking the boat too much because the establishment is serving her very well.

Finally, is single payer going to happen? Of course not. Why not? Well, for all the reasons I already mentioned. Pelosi support notwithstanding.

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3. bump for more discussion of the corrpution of washington politics.