Does anyone in here REALLLY care about what happens with health care? I doubt it.

[PretzelWarrior]

I've seen nothing to indicate people here are really dedicated to doing much other than whine about the debate taking place.

Tell me one thing you've done other than write a post here on the subject, reply to a post here on the subject, or recommend/unrecommend a post on the subject.

[peacebird]

1. Called my reps in congress (House & Senate)

Repeatedly.
Emailed my reps in House & Senate
Handwrote a letter to my Senators.

Also convinced hubby to phone them.

Oh - and signed multiple online petitions, useless as they are....

[tucsonlib]

36. My Senators Are Kyl And McCain

'nuff said. I WILL be in D.C. however....

How 'bout you?



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6079093&mesg_id=6079093

[villager]

2. fax and write my and other senators. You?

n/t

[shireen]

3. ditto. don't assume we're just whiners. nt

[PretzelWarrior]

7. wrote to and called my senators and representative

now engaged in a "call the leadership" drive. I just emailed a bunch of media outlets about the issue in hopes of getting people to take similar actions.

[cali]

4. I don't have to tell you anything. who are you to demand that I do?

and I've seen plenty here to indicate that people here care deeply about health care.

[sharesunited]

8. The OP is just having a Howard Beale moment.

But they're absolutely right.

I'm made as hell, yet I AM going to take it some more.

What choice do I have?

[PretzelWarrior]

17. it's amazing the power we have to do something more meaningful but don't

that's why it's too bad Meetups never took off the way they could have. It is ultimately about physical confrontation of issues and physical actions. Sometimes, I think these message boards are good cooling resevoirs where people who are frustrated can just let off steam and then they're good to go. No tipping point reached of REAL ACTION on something we believe in.

[sharesunited]

27. Real action meaning something other voting and petitioning for redress of grievances?

No, I will not riot or take up arms. That would make me no better than Koresh, Weaver, McVeigh, or your average tea bagger.

[PretzelWarrior]

35. no. where did I ever suggest that? I mean something more visible than chat rooms

or online polls/petitions.

[PretzelWarrior]

9. I haven't. I see mostly whines, links to articles/editorials...all sizzle, no steak.

so I guess I'm saying unless people can tell themselves they've really REACHED on this and contacted neighbors through the calling campaign or written letters to the editor or gone to town halls of their representative or at least called their offices, I don't think they have much room to whine.

Am I being purposefully confrontational? YES. Because that SEEMS to be the only way to get a message through here. which is sad.

[Uzybone]

5. Some here are rooting for it to fail

because then somehow we will get single payer. Its insane.


Democrats fail = GOP wins = worse healthcare

[lunatica]

6. I write my senators knowing one is for it and the other is an asshole

And I post on

http://www.whitehouse.gov/

and ask for a response. I've also talked to doctors and nurses and my neighbors and even strangers.

[bobbolink]

15. I'll trade you for my THREE assholes!

I really need to live in an asshole-free zone before I die....

[PretzelWarrior]

19. if you're able to swing it...think about Portland, Oregon. IT ROCKS!!

[LiberalAndProud]

10. Which of my representatives should I contact,

Ben Nelson or Jeff Fortenberry? If you get my drift.

[PretzelWarrior]

13. BOTH!! that's the point! if you contact them and then tell Obama

you contacted them...he's got more leverage. They have numbers they can use on the wafflers. If they sense there's a certain temperature in a state like Nebraska based on feedback, then they know ads in those areas will be effective.

Sonia Sotomayor testimony is done. She is in. Time to concentrate all efforts where they belong. ON THIS TITANIC ENDEAVOR. We will be so glad we fought when we win this thing.

[LiberalAndProud]

16. Okay, I'm in.

How do I let Obama know?

[PretzelWarrior]

18. in my linked post, I list the Organize for America. on that site

under the "Contact Congress" area it has the outline of how a polite call might go. Once you generate the list of who your senators/reps are and make the calls, it asks for feedback right on the form about who you called and what their positions were on health care.

Those will get totaled up for his health care staff and others to see and use.

On top of that, there are other areas to "STAND WITH OBAMA" where you register your support and notify if you are a doctor, nurse, or otherwise in the health care field.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6083414

[Laelth]

11. You are right. I have not written my letters yet.

I have written my blue dog congress-critter twice on this issue in the past year or so, but not since I saw the recent House bill. I intend to write him and the members of the Progressive Caucus and tell them all that the House bill stinks--that it's worse than doing nothing.

:dem:

-Laelth

[City of Mills]

12. Welcome back!

I've missed your antagonizing, provocative posting style so much!

[PretzelWarrior]

14. I'd rather be noisy and effective than politely watch nothing get done.

:)

[peacebird]

23. Why do you assume that the rest of us are do-nothing whiners?

You have not been "effective" with me, just arrogant.

I have already been actively supporting health care - contacting my reps in congress etc.

[Oregone]

20. Dumb post warrants no intelligent response

[PretzelWarrior]

22. and yet you continue to get responses

no justice, I tell ya

[Atticus]

26. That would explain YOUR response. nt

[Oregone]

28. Thats what I was going for

I typed a couple responses out, and then just said fuck it and hit the delete key.


Reciprocate idiocy

[LanternWaste]

21. I would be the first to tell you...

I would be the first to tell you, but demands wrapped in righteous wrath, and said with the zeal of a Sunday morning televangelist usually put me off a bit.

However, should you ever choose to frame your demand for information in a more civil and polite manner at a later date, I'd be happy to tell you what both I and my church are doing to move the cause forward.

[PretzelWarrior]

24. ok. I will be posting on this topic quite a bit in coming days

so I am sure I can find a way to post a similar point in a less confrontational way.

[LanternWaste]

25. I have few doubts of that n/t

I have few doubts of that n/t

[inna]

29. holy shit. i just recommended this.

you have a very good point.

i, for one, have not been doing nearly enough, although i DO_really_care about this issue.

[dysfunctional press]

30. i've made MANY phonecalls to my reps and the white house line.

if it gets to the point that a massive march on washington is what it will take- i'll be there.

BUT- i've gotten cautiously optimistic since the democratic house plan was released...

[Stinky The Clown]

31. What have you done?

[billyoc]

32. I've made sure my Union is exempt from whatever abortion the Blue Dogs perform.

Nothing personal, my guys gotta come first.

[LWolf]

33. I've contacted all my reps in Congress,

and a bunch who don't directly represent me, as well.

Why?

[BlooInBloo]

34. Aargh. Activism penis length posts suck.

[lunatica]

37. Damn! I wish I had said that

Good one

[mmonk]

38. I have written representatives.

But most have citizens on ignore.

[raccoon]

40. Well said! nt

[berni_mccoy]

39. I actually visited my Congressman and Senators in Washington D.C.

I care greatly, as I have two children with a chronic medical condition.

[havocmom]

41. Pretty sure Baucus staffers know my phone number on their caller ID

And you have NO idea how I love to listen to tales of woe re the personal health care costs from my RW neighbors, then ask them why they oppose reform, other than it being pushed by a DEM President who is a different color than they are.

[Stevenmarc]

42. We all took a vote and elected you the health care concern czar

[solstice]

43. I've written to my Senators, Congressmen and Obama (Dems - supposedly - all) and gotten back

nothing but doublespeak gobbledygood from the congressholes and nothing from the White House.

So tell ME - what is OBAMA doing, other than caving in and selling out?

[spanone]

44. and what have you done?