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Thu Jul-16-09 09:22 PM
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Hey Pat! Remember This? "No Irish Need Apply" |
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Thu Jul-16-09 09:31 PM
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1. I thought of that myself |
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apparently he doesn't. There have been times when I've had to remind my mother of that, just to snap her back to reality.
He also apparently doesn't remember the deal that was made of John Kennedy's religion and the meme that he'd "take orders from the Pope". (Supposedly Jackie found this amusing as she was quoted as saying she didn't get the concern because "Jack isn't a very good Catholic.")
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Fri Jul-17-09 09:00 AM
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9. There is a big difference though |
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Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 09:01 AM by SoCalDem
Irish & german people became indistinguishable once they lost their accents & modified their names a bit.
Someone whose pigmentation "gives them away" from a distance, never had the same opportunities.
many in my own family changed their names. Most dropped the O-apostrophe, and became Shea or Shay or even Shaw.
if you are hispanic (and look it), no name change or accent loss will help with blending in. African-Americans had their "given" names that were quite "american", but their lack of white skin, took away any advantage.
Modern-day immigrants want to blend in, more than anything else. the sooner they do that, the sooner they quit getting hassled over immigration status. Thatg's another reason many of them cluster together. there is safety in numbers..and comfort too..
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Fri Jul-17-09 11:57 AM
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but I think it doesn't hurt those of us of Irish descent (particularily those whose ancestors came up during the Hunger) that we were not welcome with open arms.
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Thu Jul-16-09 09:39 PM
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3. Better remind Hannity, too, while you're at it. |
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Thu Jul-16-09 09:41 PM
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4. He may not, but I do; I've heard about it from my great-greats and great-grands who experienced it. |
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And for the life of me I see NO difference whatsoever.
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Thu Jul-16-09 09:43 PM
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5. This one might bug him a bit... |
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Thu Jul-16-09 10:22 PM
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7. That's what I was thinking too! |
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Fri Jul-17-09 08:43 AM
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8. Thank you for finding that! |
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I have used that song before in talking about the Irish experience, but hadn't seen that image. BTW, it's missing the chorus:
Some may think it a misfortune to be christened Pat or Dan, But to me it is an honor to be born an Irishman!
And the Irish were barely considered "white" during the Civil War, Pat--but look at the shamrocks on the Gettysburg monuments. (But then Buchanan is likely "Scots-Irish" and not so lowly as the "bog" Irish, huh?) :eyes:
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Fri Jul-17-09 12:00 PM
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11. I thought Scots-Irish was a term the Ulster Irish who were already here |
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Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 12:00 PM by dflprincess
(and were mainly Protestant) came up with for themselves to set them apart from the droves of Irish Catholics who arrived in the 1840s and 50s. Buchanan is Catholic isn't he?
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Fri Jul-17-09 12:55 PM
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12. He's Catholic, but... |
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with German, English, Scots-Irish and Irish roots. He had a great-grandfather who fought for the South and is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. (from Wikipedia; had to do some research to make sure).
And yes, most "Scots-Irish" were from Ulster; many were Scots whose families were "cleared" from their own homes only to find Ulster not much better and skipped on over to America. They tended to be Protestant (specifically Presbyterian and so discriminated against by the Anglicans) and were distrustful of governments. They formed the backbone of the Appalachian hill folk (part of my background, too)
His views are vile--please excuse if I want to disclaim him as "one of our own"! :P
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