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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:19 AM
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Why We Need Pat Buchanan on MSNBC
Basically, he is a stereotype/caricature of all RW Republicans....it is good to keep him on display to the independent voters as representative of repukes......I think I agree with that sentiment; he is basically harmless to us, but more harmful to the repuke establishment. Agree or disagree?

http://www.theroot.com/views/save-pat-buchanan
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:23 AM
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1. Okay he can stay. But
do I have to watch him?
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:23 AM
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2. I think I agree, but it still pains me to watch that bigot. And I think
Rachel was way too nice to him, which is also frustrating.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:24 AM
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3. Disagree
I know scorpion bites pack a hell of a wallop. I don't need to poke my finger at a scorpion just as a reminder. Pat Buchanan is a bitter old racist never-was. I don't need to have him parading his ignorance just as a reminder of the latent and patent tendencies of the likes of Senators Graham, Coburn, Cornyn and the rest of that pack of bigots.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:25 AM
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4. I would instead prefer him on Fox News...
It would be a perfect fit for all the reasons you cite.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:25 AM
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5. As long as we get a "Pat Buchanan mute" button ...
... that man almost has a louder, more obnoxious voice than Chris Matthews.

Watching either of them raises my blood pressure, and not just because of the ridiculous shit they say.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:26 AM
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6. I agree.
Pat does more harm to the Republican brand every time he opens his mouth. I've often wondered why he doesn't decamp and return to his natural environment on Faux News, but I do think he does more damage to the conservative/Republican image spouting his idiocies at MSNBC.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:34 AM
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7. Agree. He's not only harmful to the repug brand, he's...
harmful to the talking heads who treat him well and give him a pass: "Ho-ho! Good ol' Pat! Always taking things just a LEEETLE too far!" instead of outright calling him on his BS.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:37 AM
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8. Every network that continues to point a camera at him...
...should be called on his evil bullshit. Every so-called lefty that continues to give him the time of day is suspect.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:56 AM
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14. I'm with you. We legitimize his racism when he has respectable
forums. Well, if Morning Joe is a respectable forum, which more and more, it isn't. Relegate him to the fringe that has no standards whatsoever. Fox News, for example. He doesn't belong on any legitimate program.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:58 AM
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18. I think you answered your own question
Mourning Joe isn't a respectable forum and anyone with half a brain knows that. Granted, I think he gets good ratings but are the Dems and liberals going to get those people anyway. I think Pat Buchanan and his ilk show centrist Republicans and Independents what the Republican party really is, a party of racist white men. I for one want Pat Buchanan to continue spewing his bile so more people see what the Republican party really is.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:37 AM
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9. I'm torn. Reasonable people look at him and see the racism in his remarks
and in the Republican party.

But my concern is that for people like him, his appearance on TV news legitimizes his and their own racist views.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:39 AM
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10. Agree. The Evil Old Racist Motherfucker...... (n/t)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:40 AM
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11. He is Archie Bunker.
His views on domestic policy are paleo-right-wing. He is unlike to gain much more support for his positions than are reruns of "All in the Family."
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:48 AM
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12. I made the same case on another thread.
Everytime this fossil spews his hateful 1950's rhetoric you can count on independent and left leaning Republicans seeing the Republican party for what it really is, a party for the advancement of white men. If you don't think that turns off most of the country you weren't paying attention in 2006 and 2008 elections. This stuff is old news and most people see that. I vote to keep him on MSNBC, hell give him his own show. I for one want him to continue this shit so people can see what the Republican party is all about.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:53 AM
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13. If he has to exist, I would rather see him on PM MSNBC than anywhere else where he can do damage.
At least PM MSNBC viewers are (or should be) liberals.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:01 AM
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15. MSNBC is an Equal opportunity employer
and they still need their white supremacist minorities which are part of the US melting pot. A way to keep things "fair and balanced".
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:22 AM
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16. I'm torn
On one hand, I'd rather see him on MSNBC because at least there he is somewhat called out for what he says. On the other hand, because he is paid by MSNBC, he has escaped "worst person" lists, that he no doubt deserved to be one multiple times already, and that just makes them look like hypocrites.



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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:24 AM
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17. Interesting quotes from Pat....
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 11:25 AM by Tierra_y_Libertad
On Race and Color...

"If we had to take a million immigrants in, say Zulus, next year, or Englishmen, and put them up in Virginia, what group would be easier to assimilate and would cause less problems for the people of Virginia?" (Pat Buchanan, "This Week With David Brinkley," 1/8/91)

" an across-the-board assault on our Anglo-American heritage." (Pat Buchanan, in a September 1993 speech to the Christian Coalition

"George Bush should have told the that black America has grown up; that the NAACP should close up shop, that its members should go home and reflect on JFK's admonition: 'Ask not what your country can do for you, but rather ask what you can do for your country.'" (Pat Buchanan, syndicated column, 7/26/88)

"There is a legitimate grievance in my view of white working-class people that every time, on every issue, that the black militants loud-mouth it, we come up with more money.... If we can give 50 Phantoms to the Jews, and a multi-billion dollar welfare program for the blacks...why not help the Catholics save their collapsing school system." (Pat Buchanan, Boston Globe, 1/4/92)

After Sen. Carol Moseley Braun blocked a federal patent for a Confederate flag insignia, Buchanan wrote that she was "putting on an act" by associating the Confederacy with slavery: "The War Between the States was about independence, about self-determination, about the right of a people to break free of a government to which they could no longer give allegiance," Buchanan asserted. "How long is this endless groveling before every cry of 'racism' going to continue before the whole country collectively throws up?" (Pat Buchanan, syndicated column, 7/28/93)

White House advisor Buchanan urged President Nixon in an April 1969 memo not to visit "the Widow King" on the first anniversary of Martin Luther King's assassination, warning that a visit would "outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse.... Others consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history." (Pat Buchanan, New York Daily News, 10/1/90)

On Women

"If a woman has come to believe that divorce is the answer to every difficult marriage, that career comes before children ... no democratic government can impose another set of values upon her." (Pat Buchanan, Right from the Beginning, p. 341)

"Rail as they will about 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism." (Pat Buchanan, syndicated column, 11/22/83)

"The real liberators of American women were not the feminist noise-makers, they were the automobile, the supermarket, the shopping center, the dishwasher, the washer-dryer, the freezer." (Pat Buchanan, Right from the Beginning, p. 149)"

On Jewish People

"Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody." (Pat Buchanan, challenging the "notion" that thousands of Jews were gassed to death by Diesel exhaust in Treblinka, New Republic, 10/22/90)

"If U.S. Jewry takes the clucking appeasement of the Catholic cardinalate as indicative of our submission, it is mistaken. When Cardinal O'Connor of New York seeks to soothe the always irate Elie Wiesel by reassuring him 'there are many Catholics who are anti-Semitic'...he speaks for himself. Be not afraid, Your Eminence; just step aside, there are bishops and priests ready to assume the role of defender of the faith." (Pat Buchanan, commenting after Cardinal O'Connor criticized anti-Semitism during the controversy over construction of a convent near Auschwitz, New Republic, 10/22/90)

"...despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was an individual of great courage...Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path." (Pat Buchanan, from a 1977 Syndicated column)

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:58 AM
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19. Um, I don't need bigots anywhere. Speak for yourself.
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 11:59 AM by BlooInBloo
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:01 PM
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20. I could not believe how blatantly racist he was last night with Rachel Maddow.
I have to give her credit for not screaming at him.

"RARGH AFFIRMATIVE ACTION HIRE! WHITE POWER!"
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