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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:12 PM
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Action Plan; How to deal with the Door-to-Door H8ters. You can help!
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 05:18 PM by The Doctor.
Help prevent these people from spreading the hatred... Here's how;

I've done this with Deposed Ethiopian Despots who offer me a fortune online, Jehovah's Witnesses (really... they're nice people), and countless telemarketers. I figure that if I, someone who knows their game, can piss away these parasites' time and effort; I'll save some other poor sap from being subjected to the possibility of getting taken in.

Well... now we have, as I've recently learned, some new purveyors of pernicious proselytization have hit the streets.

So let's screw with them... shall we?

We know, thanks to the internets and some http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6089574">pro-active posters, that Ron Prentice and "Protect Marriage" (my ass) will be going door-to-door in the Bay Area, Los Angeles, and the Central Valley.

That's a LOT of area.

Now, some lucky DUer's live in that area and may have the good fortune of some of these people knocking on your door.

I know how strong the urge may be to tell these people exactly how you feel, perhaps even with a little kinetic punctuation (Now, now... no violence please. :evilgrin:)

DON'T DO IT!!!

You will do nothing to them. They are zealots. They have no understanding that they are trying to hurt people without just cause. Being pissed off and sending them off on the gale of your ire will only speed their journey and fill their sails.

No, that would be bad. HERE'S what you do;


At the beginning of their pitch, be legitimately perplexed but concerned. As they tell you about how important it is to stop 'teh gays' from ruining all life as we know it, become a little more concerned and interested.

Tell them you have lots of friends who you'd like to tell about this issue, and then invite them in so they can 'give you more information'.

Do not outright agree with them. They will feel their work is done and try to move on to the next vict... er, uhh... neighbor. Spare your neighbors, keep them there with you. Let them think that they've struck gold, that you are going to spread the word to a dozen people or more because they are truly enlightening someone who was otherwise naïve to the 'danger'. They'll bite, they'll stay, and they'll answer any (innocuous) questions you come up with. Keep the discussion going for as long as you can. Once you get to a point that you are satisfied you've wasted enough of their time, start asking the questions that prove what hateful bastards they are;

"Ok, so now I just need to know, because it will really help me convince my brother-in-law too; just how is this going to destroy marriage?"

"Oh, ok... so you're saying your marriage would fail if gays became married, right?"

If you'd like more suggestions, there are a brazillion DUer's who can give Ideas.

By the time they've figured out they've been had, you will have spared a number of good people, and possibly gullible ones too, the affliction of these arrogant ambulatory advocates of oppression. (A schwa is a schwa! :silly:)

Please, K+R this, call friends and family in the Bay Area/Los Angeles/Central Valley and tell them what to do, get some fresh coffee and biscuits, and get ready to waste some H8ters' time.

I promise, although it may not be as cathartic as chasing them off with epithets or Monopoly™ pieces from a Wrist Rocket™, it will be much more satisfying knowing that you’ve helped skewer their efforts on the pike of your razor-sharp cunning.



Oh, and sorry if I offended any Jehovah's Witnesses on DU... you're all really very nice people... really. Stop by anytime. :evilgrin:




PS: Oh, and I reserve the right to x-post or re-post for Sunday's DU traffic change. Thanks!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:27 PM
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1. I went round and round with a cousin once... I'll cut to the chase...
Me: So, you think gay people are sick?

Him: Yes! They are sick in the head!

Me: So, this is how Jesus taught you to treat sick people? Really?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:30 PM
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3. Yeah, you'll never convince them.
Getting them wound up in circles is fun though. ;)

Seriously, given the margins by which votes are decided, this is good tactics. Know anyone in the area?
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:29 PM
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2. I'd love to help you
There's no way I can have those people in my house. Maybe I can find a contribution to the other side, instead.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:37 PM
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7. Wouldn't be helping me really... I'm just one of many that wants h8te to fail.
I've always taken great satisfaction in stopping assholes from doing, well... asshole things.

There is a great deal of value in slowing these people down. One good act can keep them from reaching a dozen people. Even if an extra 1% of people are not swayed to their purpose it's worth it.

Doing this would be a contribution to the other side... But I understand your aversion.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:31 PM
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4. I'm reminded of an episode of Third Rock from the Sun
Where the alien family had evolved enough into humans to start dreaming, which perplexed them, so they all got on some sort of prescription drug which mellowed them out to the point where they kept some Jehovah Witnesses in their apartment for hours until the JWs finally had had enough and wanted to leave. :)

TlalocW
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:35 PM
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5. Can someone please explain to me why Jehovah's Witnesses ...
keep trying to recruit new members when only 44,000 of them are going to heaven. Doesn't successful recruting cut down on the odds of any one of them getting in?

You are right about them being nice though. I usually just tell them I am a happy Atheist and they seem fine with that.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:56 PM
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9. That's one of my FAVORITE questions for them!
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 05:57 PM by The Doctor.
That and when I ask why it is that God only spoke one 'Word' and then go into my best Southern Baptist;

(font accent=preacherman}"Friends, how many of the words you have spoken are yo-urs? How many of the words you have uttered through-uh-out your life were not yer own? My friends, Gawd is eternal! Gawd is ever-LASTING! And Gawd did not stop speaking 6,3, or even 2000 ye-ars ago! He speaks to all of us, Ev-er-y Day-uh!"

"Praise Jaysus!"

"Friends, look around yuh! That's raight! Look ah-round yuh! Look next t' yuh! Smilin' back, right atcha, right next t'yuh... is the Word of Gawd!

Yes my Brothers and Sisters! Gawd Spoke, and Jay-sus was born! Gawd Spoke, and the World was created! Gawd spoke, and a blade of grass grew! A whale breached the sea! A mountain rose up! Gawd's voice is in every hug from yuhr children! Ev-er-y breeze you feel! Every breath you take is the Word of Gawd!

"HAl-lejula!"

The Word of Gawd is in yuhr wife's eyes, yuhr husband's smile, and yuhr children's laughter!

The Word of Gawd is ALLLLLL A-round you!


A-Men."(/preacher}



Oh, that's one of my favorite petite sermons... really screws with them because they can't deny it, and they can't agree either. That would wreck their little world.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:36 PM
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6. I just ask them to wait - that I'm interested but have to turn off the stove (whatever) ....
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 05:36 PM by TahitiNut
... and them leave them there until they get tired of waiting.

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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 05:45 PM
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8. This is a method that's a bit more fun...
A friend of mine did this. The JWs (dad, mom, and little girl) came to her door, and she chatted them up on her porch for a while, very pleasantly. After a few minutes she said something like, "Oh, is this your daughter? She's very cute." The couple beamed, and my friend bent down and said, "Did you know mommy and daddy are in a cult? When you get older, if you can find your way back here, I'll give you sanctuary."

Of course, they left very quickly, went out to the middle of the street, made several religious gestures (not a euphemism for flipping my friend off, actual "religious" hand gestures), and went back to the Kingdom Hall to tell people to stay away from my friend's house. She's never been bothered again.

TlalocW
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 06:01 PM
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10. I know.... I don't stay of their 'do not visit' list very long after moving somewhere either.
Although I missed a visit a year or so back. My teenager was home, and wasn't well-versed enough to deal with them.

Ah... another missed opportunity.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 06:07 PM
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11. Why not just Mace 'em and be done with it?
I'm channeling Hunter Thompson for some reason...
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 07:00 PM
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12. While that sounds like a good idea,
it's a waste of your time and energy. That time and energy would be better spent, I think, working on the opposite team from those morons.

When they show up at my house, I tell them to get off my property and hand them a little piece of paper that notifies them that trespassing is a crime and that the police will be called if they show up again.

I have a little stack of those on the table next to the door. I don't put a sign up, because there are some people I don't mind, and to whom I enjoy talking.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 07:20 PM
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14. Sorry, but the simple numbers work.
If you keep them busy for 20 minutes, how many visits have you prevented them from making?

Now, if you can get them arrested otoh... :evilgrin:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 07:08 PM
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13. Excellent idea! One more weapon to use against ignorance! k+r, n/t
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