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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:07 PM
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How are the Brokaw generation supposed to feel?
I have always been suspect of the news. Brokaw I think showed a political slant. Did Cronkite and the newcasters of the day just report the news?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:09 PM
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1. Brokaw is a fool...a tool...his legacy is the 1996 Olympics Atlanta bombing
when Bob Costas interviewed him after Tom "interviewed" the FBI...I forget the guy's name whom the FBI slandered, but Tom just ate it up and Bob asked, How can they be sure they have the right guy? Tom's response was Well, it's the FBI...total, complete idiot.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:09 PM
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2. Cronkite conveyed his personal opinion on only one occasion
When he announced to the world that the Vietnam war was unwinnable.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:13 PM
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3. Brokaw was the first of the pretty boy, semi vacuous newscasters.
He's more of a TV personality than a newsman, and that began the trend.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:14 PM
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6. You are correct. Brokjaw is what was called a BlowDried Newsreaders.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:21 PM
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8. The film NETWORK tells the story of the decline of Network news.
We went from actual journalists to news talkers.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:29 PM
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10. Aye....
and we keep eating up the shit that they shovel our way.....
for the most part.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:57 PM
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13. I think you're being overly generous to Brokaw.
He's not "semi" vacuous. He's just vacuous.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:46 PM
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15. I am, but I believe in being very generous.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:13 PM
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4. Walter Cronkite was a journalist....
Brokjaw is a pompidour wearing mediawhore.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:14 PM
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5. That was a different era
There were only the 3 networks and PBS. (The UHF channels were much smaller operations.)

Walter Cronkite came out of the era of Edward R. Murrow and the great radio and news tradition that took America through the WWII. He was a different guy from a very different era.

Imagine if there were only 3 networks. Cronkite had 15 and later 30 minutes to relay the news. He was heard in a way that the fractured nature of the delivery of news now does not allow. He was trusted, but there was no 24 hour news cycle that had to feed itself consistently either. He was trusted, but that was an easier era for TV News.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:20 PM
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7. They should feel sad, that they don't even remember when news was just that..news
When News Isn't
January 30, 2002
by SoCalDem

Those of us of a "certain age" remember the days of Huntley & Brinkley, and Walter Cronkite. In those days, our news was delivered to us in a straightforward manner, with little, if any, commentary. As Walter used to say at the end of every newscast, "That's the way it was on ...(fill in any date)."

Most cities of any size, had at least two newspapers, a morning and an afternoon paper. People read the morning paper with breakfast, the afternoon paper after work, and settled down for the evening news on television. Back in those days, some broadcasts were only 15 minutes long. The amazing thing was that in that short amount of a time the newsmen actually conveyed a sense of what was going on around the world.

When did the news stop being the news? Why does a slice of our demographic pie actually think what we get today is NEWS?

The format of a news broadcast has a lot to do with it. A look back at those archived, grainy old black and white images tells the story. A man, a desk, a microphone, a clock, and a serious demeanor... That's about what it took in those days to convince most people that they had better pay attention, because what they were about to see was important, and worthy of their attention.

The format has changed little over the decades. There are women now, but most of them are window dressing. The men of broadcasting age, but the women are replaced as their on-camera persona becomes less Barbie-like. Advertisers have burned the image of a desk, a man, a microphone, and a clock, into the collective psyche of America. That image conjures up NEWS.

It's no wonder that over time, the forces out there who would try to control the American Mind would adopt the very same format to get their message across. It comes to us wrapped up like a news broadcast, but like the Bizarro World of Superman, it isn't what it pretends to be. People out there in viewerland see the desk, and the trappings of a newscast, and they think that is what they are getting..

As the Fairness Doctrine faded away into the sunset, we were besieged by endless "faux" news programs. Corporate moguls hungrily devoured smaller broadcast venues as they built their vast communication holdings. Most of these moguls have very different worldviews than the average citizen does. It became easier and easier to insinuate their own political and ideological leanings into every aspect of their burgeoning empires.

In past times, when a news anchor wanted to change jobs, he would mail tapes of representative reportage to various media outlets across the country and wait to see if he got any offers. If they were a bigger outlet or offered a higher salary, there was little impediment to the newsman's acceptance of that offer.

This was the way it was then, but now with all the consolidation, that movement is dictated by the men at the top. When they control media all over the country, the individual broadcasters are not free to look around. They are more like indentured servants to their master. If they get on the wrong side of the message they are supposed to convey, their trip up the ladder is over. That they are well paid cannot be of much consolation, because their mobility and their very jobs are always in jeopardy, if they say the wrong thing.

The "Screaming Head" shows of today are an offshoot of the media consolidation too. When cable hurled itself into the "News Game," they gave birth to a beast that needed constant feeding. The OJ phenomenon showed that masses of people would velcro themselves to a couch and watch one single story over and over for months on end. Advertisers had to be wearing drool bibs when they realized that. But all "good" things must end, and eventually, we had no more OJ to kick around.

Enter... Politics.

Granted, the niche market for politics may be a narrow one, but political junkies are loyal, and they are interactive. The fact that most of the owners of the media are corporations who feast at the teat of the government, is not incidental. The message gets very important when it comes to the rules and regulations that the ones at the top need to go their way.

They know which party will acquiesce, and they know the drill. In order to get favorable legislation, the media must constantly sell the message that will urge the public to the polls and keep the "right" people in office.

If a non-compliant congress acts in the best interest of the public, the corporations will take a hit in the bank account. This must be avoided at all costs. It's a kabuki dance of dangerous proportions. Access is divvied up like the spoils of war between fewer and fewer rich men, and the spillover is that they control cable, satellite, mainstream broadcast and even the old fallback, newspapers.

The old maxim "If you can't beat them, join them" no longer applies. The modern version is, "If you can't beat them... EAT them."

More and more news outlets are being controlled by fewer and fewer ideologues. Strangely enough, there are still many people who see the desk, the man and the clock and their mind says... NEWS...
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:21 PM
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9. Cheated.
Cronkite was a journalist to the core, and he learned the craft back when journalism was a noble profession. He didn't make himself the center of the news; he let the facts speak for themselves. Good, honest reporting the likes of which we'll not see again.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:31 PM
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11. Ripped off, deprived, conned, insulted...
Brokaw was and is a vacuous puppet. There was a short period, long ago, when real journalists were the face of the news. But that era is long gone, it lasted from the initial introduction of television until maybe about the early to mid-70s.

I'm sorry for those who weren't around then, it was a far different world than now.

sw
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:32 PM
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12. Cronkite gave his opinion only once. In 1968, after the Tet Offensive
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 08:33 PM by Stinky The Clown
He said the war was unwinnable. Weeks later LBJ said he wouldn't run.

His one (only) opinion statement made a president realize he had lost the American people.







Edit out my senior moment in the title ---- change "Brokaw to Cronkite. How did I DO that????
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 09:23 PM
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14. Inadequate. Woefully. n/t
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