CIA Domestic Operations Division: A DU collaborative thread

[bobthedrummer]

Despite the charter that prohibited the CIA from operating domestically when it was formed as part of the National Security Act of 1947 there is a Domestic Operations Division-it was formally created in February 1963.

It emerged from the Directorate of Operations.

The first person heading the Domestic Operations Division was Tracy Barnes.

Tracy Barnes profile (Spartacus Schoolnet)
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbarnesT.htm

When Richard McGarrah Helms became DCI in 1966 he fired Barnes.

The CIA's Special Operations Group(s) was formally created in August 1967 as part of the Counter-Intelligence Division. There was the usual interface of CIA employees "loaned" between these compartmented units as well as drafting of people that were in other US intelligence, US law enforcement and US military agencies.

The Domestic Operations Division during the administrations of Presidents Johnson, Ford and Nixon (when Richard McGarrah Helms was DCI) conducted many programs and operations targeting US citizens and groups, ostensibly to disrupt alleged involvement of foreign powers.

Some of these domestic operations were MHCHAOS/Operation CHAOS, Project RESISTANCE, Project MERRIMAC, and Project 2.

Project RESISTANCE worked with college administrators, campus security and local law enforcement to "identify" anti-war and "political dissidents" without infiltration.

Project MERRIMAC infiltrated anti-war and "radical" groups deemed a threat to CIA property (including front organizations) and personnel (including those on "loan").

There were operations based on communication outside the US and between targeted citizens and groups (developed from the various "lists", often provided by politicized law enforcement "intelligence").

The National Security Archive has a full (yet redacted) set of what was called "The Family Jewels" CIA documents which is a great resource when it comes to the Domestic Operations Division.

Here's a link to The National Security Archive's website I encourage DUer's and "visitors" to visit it.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/

This is just an OP, how and what we discuss about the CIA's Domestic Operations Division is up to you.

A couple of other related items, Richard Ober was the head of MHCHAOS (which was renamed the International Terrorism Group and "political dissidents" underwent an operational description name change to "international terrorists") when Richard McGarrah Helms was destroying as many documents as he could in his final days as DCI. Ober then became the head of the International Terrorism Group.

The CIA's Domestic Operations Division moved to Denver during the BUSH/CHENEY era.

I'm looking forward to your participation in this thread DU.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. Starts with "A," ends with "X."

[bobthedrummer]

3. Aeon Flux discussions are definitely off topic. But thanks for dropping in RiF.

Since the House is going to begin an investigation to see if laws were broken I'll repost a thread that is highly relevant to a discussion of the CIA's Domestic Operations Division-it's topic was about a previous House investigation that "discovered" some of the crimes that were directed at American citizens in our country.

There's some very good participation and many informative links related to this thread in the one below.

The Pike Committee
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2990965

[Kalun D]

2. Police State

""CIA Domestic Operations Division""

The C-ocaine I-mporting A-gency is just the police arm of the money'd elite that really run the country. They had to set up operations here because oppression is not just necessary abroad it's necessary at home to keep citizens from awakening/overthrowing the filthy richer tyrants. The politicians don't run things, they're just a front for the rich pigs that are screwing us every day.

""The CIA's Domestic Operations Division moved to Denver during the BUSH/CHENEY era.""

for some reason Denver is a nexus of evil, have you seen the art work in the airport there? AFAIK it's also where the assassins of John Lennon and prez Raygoon came from.

[bobthedrummer]

4. President Reagan wasn't assassinated as you well know.

During his administration I have no doubts that US citizens were harmed in our nation by politicized operations that included the work of the CIA Domestic Operations Division.

And, paradoxically, there were real traitors at both the CIA and FBI that were responsible for catching agents of foreign powers (Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen).

[Kalun D]

5. Yes

Raygoon's attempted assassination

no doubt there's some necessary protection provided by the CIA, it's just by and large an enforcer of the corporate will. They're not overthrowing democracies to help the peoples, they're doing it to help the predatory capitalists.

and looking at your point that domestic CIA ops is against the rules. When did that stop these people before? Like Federal income tax was never ratified by the states. and the Federal Reserve is not legal according to the constitution.

[bobthedrummer]

6. When the Domestic Operations Division officially started up in 1963 under the direction

of Tracy Barnes, Mr. Barnes Deputy was E. Howard Hunt.

[Octafish]

7. Big Example Everyone Knows about: Operation MOCKINGBIRD

... which is the infiltration and control of American media to insure that you and I never quite hear the truth as it really is...

CIA Disinformation in Action Operation Mockingbird and the Washington Post

There are more examples, but it's the same for Corporate McPravda, the White Hose Press Corpse and the rest of ABCNNBCBSFauxNoiseNutworks.

Thank you for another oustanding thread, yours, bobthedrummer.

[hootinholler]

8. It would also be hard to ignore your most excellent thread

Here. Oh BTW, I added a name for your list.

-Hoot

[bobthedrummer]

9. Is Angus Mackenzie on that list?

He wrote "Secrets: The CIA's War at Home", Third World Traveler has excerpts of it which I've linked below.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Secrets_CIAWarAtHome.html

A lot of the work of Sid Gottlieb in the old Technical Service Division involved medically based murder and mayhem which continued in the Domestic Operations Division and is even more sophisticated today-but you guys know that.

[hootinholler]

10. No, did he meet an untimely demise? n/t

[bobthedrummer]

11. He died of brain cancer in 1994-"Secrets" was completed by friends and associates.

Angus spent over 15 years of his life researching, teaching and publishing about the "hidden history" of crimes committed behind the shield of national security.

Angus Mackenzie profile (Spartacus Schoolnet)
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmackenzie.htm

I'm highly suspicious of some of the neuroscience fields (which involved the use of "research" straight out of MKULTRA), the legacy of Gottlieb's Health Alteration Committee is active in the 21st century.

[defendandprotect]

12. K&R

[dgibby]

13. Great idea! Thanks.

A personal story that may relate to the CIA,but certainly involves some type of black ops.

One of my older brothers joined the Nat. Guard, went AD Army, was stationed at a base that served as a trolling place for CIA recruits. He was sent to another base for "training" in the "SS", according to my SIL.

Whatever he was involved in was definitely deep undercover. No one in the family except her, knew of his "extra-curricular" activities, not even his only child, and my SIL didn't want to know the scope of his involvement, even after he retired and was able to share some of it with her.

What she did tell the rest of us after his death was that he was SS, that he would often leave in the middle of the night, accompanied by strangers who would handcuff an attache case to his wrist, and that he could be gone several months at a time. His cover story was that he was doing either Army or NG maneuvers.

As a military retiree, I don't believe for one skinny minute that he was SS. I think that was another cover story for my SIL's benefit.

Whatever he was involved in started in the late '50's-early '60's and continued through until his retirement in the late '90's- early 2000's.

Needless to say, I'd love to know what he was involved in, but if they told me, they'd probably have to kill me, so I guess I'm not THAT curious.

Having this personal experience has made me acutely aware that we don't know even a fraction of what these covert organizations do, where they do it, and who's involved.

If anyone has any idea of what he was involved in, I'd love it if you'd share. It's really disconcerting that someone so closely related could have a whole other life.

:scared: :hide:

[bobthedrummer]

14. Thank you for sharing this dgibby.

[dgibby]

15. You're welcome.

I'm used to the military, security clearances, etc, but this is just too bizarro, even for me.

[Hydra]

30. I can't help shed light on that

But you're right to be wary of being too curious. Scratch the surface of our gilded illusion and you find things you probably NEVER wanted to know. In studying MKUltra and the spinoff programs, it becomes clear that our lives have no value in the eyes of the people in charge. Disconcerting, to say the least.

[bobthedrummer]

16. When the House Intelligence Committee begins to investigate to see if laws were broken one of the

many possible witnesses would have to be escorted from his cell.

Kyle "Dusty" Foggo.

How about J. Cofer Black? Alvin "Buzzy" Krongard?

There are so many possible witnesses to call from the top to the middle to the 'privatized".
George Tenet
Porter Goss
Michael Hayden
James Pavitt
Jose Rodriguez
Michael Morell
Frank Terpil
Ed Wilson
Mary Graham
Mike Mears
Geoff O'Connell
Eric Pound
Michael Sulick
Scott White
Stephen Kappes

And that's just a few from the BUSH/CHENEY era-even I can get a bit off-topic since the criminal BUSH/CHENEY administration expanded the entire intelligence community into things like Homeland Security, DNI, Office of this and that, etc.

Let's not forget Erik Prince, Titan, L-3, Wackenhut, DynCorp-and the many other "private" corporations contracted for domestic operations as a result.

One other thing-I'm sure many people became names on a "list" during the BUSH/CHENEY era simply because of the massive warrantless surveillance network or their local politicized Neighborhood Watch groups, or maybe because they read books or visit political websites like this one.

Kick

[wuvuj]

20. On a list? Make a list?

"One other thing-I'm sure many people became names on a "list" during the BUSH/CHENEY era simply because of the massive warrantless surveillance network or their local politicized Neighborhood Watch groups, or maybe because they read books or visit political websites like this one."

[bobthedrummer]

25. Data-mining, TIA, "The War on Terror", ESCHELON, CARNIVORE, even Agent Mike, etc.

[AntiFascist]

17. Some of the consolidation in Denver seems to revolve around...

development of the Aurora (SR-91) reconnaissance aircraft, which may be responsible for many of the "triangular UFO" sitings.

[Wednesdays]

18. K&R

:kick:

[Wednesdays]

19. K&R

:kick:

[Liberation Angel]

21. CIA, the Nazis, the Bushes and the Holocaust

As an undergraduate in investigative journalism I began serious research some years ago on the issues you raised and have a few comments:

1. Allen Dulles, whose brother was secretary of State while he was head of the CIA, was a principal financial operative with the Bush-Walker, Harriman, and Rockefeller families in backing the Nazis and in financing the Holocaust.

2. Allen Dules during WWII was the head of intel operations for the OSS for the allies (while at the same time having massive military/corporate operations inside the Third Reich) based in Switzerland where the nazi gold was being laundered and stashed.

3. The Dulles brother's law firm, Sullivan and Cromwell, represented the interests of IG Farben which ran Auschwitz and the death/slave labor camps with the financial support of the Bush-Walker family and the Rockefellers (Standard Oil). and others including IBM, Ford, GM, Bayer, Agfa,Merck, and many other Wall Street corporations were part of these operations doing everything from pharmaceutical research (deadly human experiments on political and ethnic prisoners), synthetics and petrochemical production, armaments etc.

4. FDR, according to John Loftus ("Secret War against the Jews") was collecting information to prosecute these bastards at the end of the war. There are many reports that FDR's death was not due to illness, but Truman (who had replaced the left leaning former VP (Henry Wallace) under FDR in a political coup at the 1944 Democratic) convention) was not in on FDR's investigation and did not prosecute or investigate Wall Street support of Hitler and the Nazis. FDR was not powerful enough to take these guys down on his own, but wanted to win the war first and was colecting his own intel to prosecute. The entire history of the US was therefore totalt changed when FDR died and all possibility of stopping profascist wall street corporate entities and families who'd committed treason died with FDR.

5. The OSS and then the CIA protected and nurtured Nazi operatives and brought them to the US. The Bush family as well as the other investors in Hitler got their corporate profits from the Holocaust after the end of the war (the proNazi corporate assets controlled by the Bush-Walker and Harriman and Dules families had been seized as Nazi assets in 1942 but were distributed back to them after the war).

6. Assets of the Third Reich and military intel operations were moved to Argentina and Chile and throughout Latin America as part of a long term 5th column operation of the fascists beginning in the 1920's. Argntina and Chile had uranium and dictatorships kept an iron grip on democracy and openness. War criminals could live their freely without fear of extradition. While Israel kidnapped Nazi death bureaucrat Eichmann @ 1960 and tried and hanged him, generally the nazis were rotected there (Eichmann was an amoral bureaucrat who had little intel value).

7. Klaus Barbie, the Nazi butcher of Lyons, was protected by Allen Dulles, though a brutal torturing monster, as too valuable an intel asset to turn over for war crimes. He tortured to death Jean Moulin and other top leaders of the French resistance (some believe at the behest of OSS operatives who felt Moulin was too much of a leftist and was too effective. REMEMBER that IF the Nazis had won the war the Dulleses, the Bushes, the Rockefellers, Morgan, and all these treasonous bastards would have been running the economy of the global fascist Third Reich.

8. Nazi assets were run by Dulles and his intel operation throughout the twentieth century. Bush I got elected with Nazi political suport. When he became head of the CIA (1975-6) he ran these operatives as he had run political ops when he was head of the republican party under Nixon.

9. JFK booted Dulles as head of the CIA because of corrupt ops which ran counter to JFK's policies, but behind JFK's back, Dulles still ran ops as a contract agent for the CIA out of the Princeton (University) intel advisory panel which ran scenarios and advised/devised strategies for global hegemony of the wall street interests. Rumsfeld and Carlucc (CIA assassin and head of the Carlyle group) came out of the Pinceton intel recruitment ops. Dules then ended up as the key proponent of the lone gunmen cover story to cover up Lee harvey Oswald's CIA/intel role. Oswald, btw, was in the same navy intel unit as Bob Woodward - Navy signal intel - and Woodward was in the CIA-Yale recruitment sister society to Skull and Bones (where CIA personnel director H. Pomeroy Davison was a member) known as Book and Snake. http://www.skepticfiles.org/socialis/bushboys.htm

10. Assassination, blackops, blackflag ops, COINTELPRO, shadow government ops and now private contracted mercenary corporations became the primary tools of the proNazi corporofascist elites. In the 1960's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, and in this new millenium the same treasonous profascist eugenicists who have engage over and over again in mass murder, genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity and simple brute murder and viciousness, utilized the lessons they learned in financing and promoting and profiting from the Third Reich and the Holocaust to continue their campaign of global terror --- but particularly here in the United States,


The lessons of history cannot be ignored, nor can we simply "look forward". The evil which was Naziism is still with us. It lurks in the hearts of Cheney and Bush and the intergenerational nazi "masterminds" of global corporate fascism: the architects of globla slaughter and global human enslavement.

Anyone who has even a snowball's chance of disturbing these dark powers of death is running the risk of annihilation. Wellstone, JFK, MLK, Malcolm x, Che, Lumumba, RFK, Allende, Mossadegh, etc etc etc. The same runs true for journalists who try to expose it here or anywhere.

It is all about fascism.

Obama fails to prosecute and investigate and imprison at the peril of democracy and of all humanity for all time.

Even a political pragmatist MUST know that failure to bring justice to traitors and fascists who wield incredible wealth and power keeps the whole planet and this beloved country of ours at continued risk of murder, mayhem, enslavement, starvation, disease and misery.

[bobthedrummer]

26. Liberation Angel here's some encouraging news (btw you are well on your way to Knowing your BFEE)

"Bush's key men face grilling on torture and death squads" by Paul Harris (7-19-09 The Observer via Guardian)

...Several investigations will now cast a spotlight on Bush-era torture policy and a secret assassination programme, examining the role played by big names such as the fromer vice-president Dick Cheney and the former defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/19/george-bush-dick-cheney-torture

[bobthedrummer]

27. Fwiw, Gates McGarrah was Richard McGarrah Helms maternal grandfather.

Gates McGarrah helped future Nazi Minister of Economics Hjalmar Schacht realize Schacht's vision of a consortium of the world's central banks (including the Fed), The Bank for International Settlements/BIS.

Gates McGarrah also was employed by Chase National. Gates McGarrah was the first President and Chairman of the Board of BIS during a period of time that financed the Nazis rise to the Third Reich.
http://www.bis.org/about/formerboard.htm

Below is another look at former DCI and later Ambassador to IRAN Richard McGarrah Helms extended family history in a 9-14-06 post of mine in an Octafish BFEE thread.

"During his final days as Director, CIA, Richard McGarrah Helms"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2082945&mesg_id=2136243

I wonder what former US Taliban PR spokeswoman Lalli Helms (Richard McGarrah Helms niece-her husband worked at Chase Manhattan) is up to today???

There are no coincidences here at all.

[Liberation Angel]

28. From the Rockefellers to Dulleses to Bush-Walkers it is INTERGENERATIONAL CORPORO-FASCISM

This is often the hardest thing for people to grasp.

When the info about Prescott Bush's banking company (he was a director with Roland Harriman and 3 actual bona-fide Nazis in "Brown Brothers, Harriman") financing Hitler as their primary New York financiers came out in full during the 2000 election cycle - the biggest critique of its "relevance" was that it was too old and was past history and that you cannot hold a Bush today responsible for the crimes of his grandfather.

What this fails to take into serious consideration is that corporofascist Naziism in its current form is an intergenerational criminal enterprise wherein the financial entities such as Chase Bank, Standard Oil, UBS, Morgan Bank, US Steel, Ford, GM, major pharmaceutical and energy industries and technology (IBM, GE, etc) as well as media conglomerates continue and are controlled by the very same small cadre of elite (generally WASP/Nordic) families who engaged in Treasonous acts during the Second World War, and subsequently, and who used the profits from the HOLOCAUST slave labor to consolidate thri power and global control.

Hitler may very well have faked his death and gone into retirement (as did their favorite branded symbol, the Swastika) in Patagonia, but the people who actually financed his rise to power, the Reichstag Fire and the destruction of the German Constitution (not to mention much of European Jewry), remained in positions of power in industry, banking and in U.S. military and intelligence operations. Their children took the profits made from the death camps and further consolidated their power using the looted corpses' gold teeth and wedding rings to finance their political and intel ops during the second half of the twentieth century.

ANY sociopolitical community network analysis makes it overwhelmingly clear that there is a direct line of responsibility and methods of operation from the rise of the Nazis to the total domination of the US, and the entire planet's economies and production and resources, by the very same corporofascist entities which operated Auschwitz.

Technology made this possible.

BUT for the first time since the deaths of FDR and JFK, there arose a technology which came into the hands of the masses (and YES with the assistance of Albert Gore Jr): the worldwide web so that an OBAMA could get elected and so that for the first time sine JFK's death there has not been a total collaborator or sellout or stooge in the White House (I would count Carter and Reagan as stooges).

I do not pretend that i support prosecution or even necessarily responsibility for the sins of the fathers on the current generation who inherited the Nazi and fascist corpse robbing booty (though complete reparations can never be paid in full and I am not opposed to seizure of all those corporate assets which resulted from willing collaboration with Hitler and all profits since then).

BUT because these who inherited the wealth stolen from millions of Jews and Poles, and Roma and homosexuals and many many others CONTINUED their operations using all known and developing brute murder methods from then until now and KNOWINGLY concealed these connections while living off the looted corpses of Nazi Germany, there should be HELL to pay for these crimes by those who continued the Nazi regime as a Fourth Reich (Hunter Thompson's coinage) and who continued the use of murder, genocide, torture, crimes against peace and humanity, and global slavery of all humanity wherever possible - I DO believe that the current crop of Nazi criminals MUST BE PROSECUTED. NOW!

[bobthedrummer]

29. The intergenerational factor is seen in the case of Elizabeth Cheney, as but one more "specimen"...

[bluesmail]

22. Domestic Operations Division - Feb 1963. I wonder if..... eom

[bobthedrummer]

24. Tracy Barnes and his deputy E. Howard Hunt. Diem...

[Liberation Angel]

33. yeah jfk was on their hit list

malcolm too

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mlk

rfk

all victims of the bfee

[bluesmail]

23. K&R Great information. eom

[AntiFascist]

31. Are you familiar with this?

http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-288-update-on-the-jfk-assassination/

...

5. The House Select Committee appears to have obtained a film of this facility, which connects some very interesting people. “It is possible that a film once existed of this training camp. The former Deputy Chief Counsel of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, Robert Tannenbaum, recalled that the committee viewed the film and to Tannenbaum it was a shock to the system. ‘The movie was shocking to me because it demonstrated the notion that the CIA was training, in America, a separate army,’ he said. ‘It was shocking to me because I’m a true believer in the system and yet there are notorious characters in the system, who are funded by the system, who are absolutely un-American! And who knows what they would do, eventually. What if we send people to Washington who they can’t deal with? Out comes their secret army? So, I find that to be as contrary to the Constitution as you can get.’ What is even more shocking is what the film reveals. According to Tannenbaum, depicted in the film among the Cuban exiles were Guy Banister, David Atlee Philips and Lee Harvey Oswald. Inexplicably, the film would later disappear from the Committee’s files.” (Ibid.; p. 30.) The Banister “detective agency” was also involved with collecting intelligence on the American civil rights movement, and was deeply involved with white supremacist organizations.

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8. Banister’s New Orleans office also served as the headquarters of the Anti-Communist League of the Caribbean, part of what would formally coalesce as the World Anti-Communist League in 1967.

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14. Some observers believe Seal may have been connected to the assassination of JFK. “During this time, just before President Kennedy was killed, an illuminating photograph was taken. A smiling 24-year-old Seal is seated at a nightclub table in Mexico City with Frank Sturgis, Felix Rodriguez, and William Seymour, all members of the CIA’s assassination squad, Operation 40. Louis Gaudin an air-traffic controller at Redbird Airport, located south of Dallas, told the FBI he recalled observing three men in business suits board a Comanche-type aircraft hours after the assassination. Seal owned such a plane, and many believe he flew the plane that spirited the assassins to Canada.” (Idem.)

[bobthedrummer]

32. Much of it is "privatized" today...