The Family was instrumental in the breaking of the spine of organized labor" "run by .... devils"

[Shallah Kali]

THE SENATOR’S SCANDAL :
Behind the closed doors on C Street
The Family — which has counseled Sen. John Ensign — lives and prays as a fundamentalist group with power at the center of its agenda

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jul/19/behind-closed-doors-c-street

Berns: The movement was founded in Seattle in 1935 by Abraham Vereide, a Norwegian immigrant, a traveling preacher who had been working with that city’s poor. He opposed the New Deal, was worried that Socialist politicians were about to take over Seattle’s municipal government. One of the things they pushed for, and you talk about, is the push in 1947 for the anti-labor initiative, the Taft-Hartley Act, which monitored, limited the activities of the labor unions.

Sharlet: Exactly. However you look at it, The Family is effectively a union busting organization. They’re particularly concerned about the Teamsters and the Longshoremen. They thought they were run by some sort of devils. The Family was instrumental in the breaking of the spine of organized labor.

One of the things that makes them different from other Christian conservative organizations, and I think even upset some Christian conservative organizations, is that the issues for them are not abortion or morality or same-sex marriage. The important issue to them is what they call Biblical capitalism, and I think what even some conservative observers looking at them call crony capitalism.

Berns: Does some of the criticism of The Family have an anti-religious bent — in a nation that values religious freedom?

Sharlet: Why is Sen. Tom Coburn (Oklahoma Republican) going to the government of Lebanon, one of the most religiously torn countries in the world, and going as a U.S. senator paid for by The Family — and saying to the government that the solution to their problems is to create more Christian prayer cells, like the one he and his friend Ensign and are in?

On the National Prayer Breakfast:

If you want to understand, look at the foreign delegations from around the world. Again and again, you see they send a leader from their country who is spiritually motivated, but it happens to be the defense minister, and the defense minister is coming for meetings with defense contractors, organized by The Family at seminars on how to pursue this business for the glory of God.

Berns: You note that many of these defense ministers are from those classic authoritarian Third World countries: Central America, South America, Africa.

Sharlet: I looked at the travel records of Ensign and Coburn and others who travel with them. As they explain it, they have been going to build relationships with brothers in Christ in places like Serbia, Sudan, Albania, Belarus, Ukraine, Pakistan, ruled by Musharraf. These are not known as great democratic nations.

At times I asked Family members about their relationship with, say, a dictator of Uganda. I would ask, “Perhaps we should hold him accountable?”

And they would say, “He’s a better dictator because of his relationship with The Family.”

They said that of Suharto, too, the Indonesian ruler to whom a death toll of 1.2 million is attributed by very reliable sources, killed with weaponry supplied by the U.S., through the agency of congressmen who thought Suharto was a man of God.

There is more on Hillary Clinton's connections, mentions of other members and other info in this interview transcript so please check out all out at the link

I belive this is the source of the interview transcript above here:
http://knpr.org/son/archive/detail.cfm?ProgramID=1662

Click here to listen to the stream im m3u http://www.knpr.org/audio2009/090715_j-sharlet.m3u
Click here to listen or download the MP3 http://www.knpr.org/audio2009/SON-mp3/090715_j-sharlet.mp3

Link to the book Sharlet wrote on the family: http://books.google.com/books?id=NVmcx-8zdGEC

[shadowknows69]

1. Maybe we should be fighting the Talibans in our country first

Recall the troops to protect us from Pseudo-Jesus cults.

[FreakinDJ]

5. "Pseudo-Jesus cults" - a good name for it

The things people do in the name of Jesus Christ is just frightening. To think that some how they can distort and rewrite the bible to come up with justification for the most unholy acts on the planet is just mind boggling

A person once told all the teaching of the KKK were right out of the bible too

And the folks that follow then have truly earned the name "Sheeple"

[blm]

12. Nah...the fascists just USE Jesus and religion to ADD cover for their powertripping goals.

.

[santamargarita]

23. That's exactly what they do!

This bunch must go!

[Hannah Bell]

14. it's an intelligence org. nothing to do with religion, except for the cover.

[Odin2005]

25. And that's why religion is BS.

Just another way to justify oppression and evil behavior.

[Javaman]

32. Want to fix it in short order? Start taxing them. nt

[RandomThoughts]

2. Hard to believe they started in Seattle.

Although some people might have lived in Seattle. For the most part Seattle has a pretty long record of many view points and not limited follow-ship for self gain.

It is also a common thing for people to demonize opponents so they can do things to them without empathy and without thinking about justice or compassion.

Lack of empathy through self righteousness allows for lack of thought or fairness when thinking on issues.

[NNN0LHI]

6. Seattle had a huge Ku Klux Klan membership in 1923

http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/kkk_seattle.htm

The Washington State Klan in the 1920s

Chapter 3

The Ku Klux Klan in Seattle

Even though it had the largest Ku Klux Klan Chapter in the state for a while, and its offices served as the headquarters for the Washington and Idaho Klan, not much is known about Seattle Klan No. 4 and other Klan chapters that succeeded it.

The Los Angeles Times reported in July of 1921 that the Klan had begun organizing in Washington State. But it was not until 1922 that King Kleagle Luther I. Powell founded Seattle Klan No. 4, which claimed a beginning membership of 2,000. The Seattle Klan’s office, which in addition to being a regional headquarters also served as the office of the Women’s Klan and the Royal Riders of the Red Robe, was located on the 6th floor of the Securities Building (1904 Third Avenue) in downtown Seattle.

While Powell exerted significant leadership over the Seattle Klan, its official leaders were Exalted Cyclops “Judge” John A. Jeffrey and Kligrapp William C. Ott. Jeffrey was a lawyer from Portland who seems to have first gotten involved with the Klan there. He was a featured speaker at many of the Klan’s largest events, and was also the head of a Klan front group called the Good Government League. He later served as a Klan leader in North Dakota, probably among a number of other places. It’s uncertain whether he was the same John A. Jeffrey who was elected to the Oregon State Legislature on the Populist People’s Party ticket in 1894.

The Seattle Klan’s huge membership in 1923 meant that it had to move to ever larger meeting places, and also that its leaders started congregating in areas near their downtown office. The Palm Café nearby on Westlake Avenue became a regular hang-out for Klan members, and was nicknamed “The Klansmen’s Roost.” Klan chapter meetings were frequently held in three different places—Seattle’s Moose Hall, Swedish Hall (1629 8th Ave), and Carpenters Hall— that demonstrated the organization’s connection to fraternal orders, Scandinavian heritage, and conservative labor unions. A photo (above) of secret Klan meeting in March of 1923 was apparently taken at the Crystal Pool, at Second and Lenora, only a few blocks from the Seattle Klan’s office.

[Sebastian Doyle]

39. They didn't last long though

Can't exactly have a decent cross burning ceremony in all that rain. :evilgrin:

[Hannah Bell]

15. to counter the left influence. seattle general strike = 1919. timber & marine trades very left

in the nw. wobblies were all over the nw: e.g. everett & centralia massacres.


At the time, workers in the United States, particularly in the Pacific Northwest, were becoming increasingly radicalized, with many in the rank and file supportive of the recent revolution in Russia and working toward a similar revolution in the United States. In the fall of 1919, for instance, Seattle longshoremen refused to load arms destined for a Russian White Army anti-Bolshevik general, and attacked strikebreakers who attempted to load them. In these years, more workers in the city were organized in unions than ever before; there was a four-hundred percent increase in union membership from 1915 to 1918.

Most unions in Seattle were officially affiliated with the AFL, but the ideas of ordinary workers tended to be more radical. A local labor leader from the time discussed the politics of Seattle's workers in June 1919:

"I believe that 95 percent of us agree that the workers should control the industries. Nearly all of us agree on that but very strenuously disagree on the method. Some of us think we can get control through the Cooperative movement, some of us think through political action, and others think through industrial action."

Another journalist recalls the radicalization of Seattle's workers, discussing the spread of propaganda relating to the Russian Revolution:

"For some time these pamphlets were seen by hundreds on Seattle's streetcars and ferries, read by men of the shipyards on their way to work. Seattle's businessmen commented on the phenomenon sourly; it was plain to everyone that these workers were conscientiously and energetically studying how to organize their coming to power. Already, workers in Seattle talked about "workers' power" as a practical policy for the not far distant future."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_General_Strike

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/hist_texts/seattle1919_p2.html

http://depts.washington.edu/labhist/cpproject/ko.htm


1920 nyt:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D01E6DC173AE532A2575AC1A96F9C946195D6CF

[pscot]

3. Are they traveling on the public dime

to build relationships with 'brothers in christ'? If so, they are egregiously abusing the Constitutional separation of church and government. There needs to be an investigation. If the Congress won't do it then the press, or the blogosphere should do it.

[blm]

4. Biblical capitalism...while the peons squabble over abortion and gays. The 90s dog&pony shows

where every scream and holler was meant to distract from the crony capitalism should be seen with anger by Dems who wasted so much time and energy defending ACTORS.

[mod mom]

7. Every citizen needs to be aware of the madness behind this cult. I hope the IRS starts to examine

their tax exempt status. Since when is fascism considered a religion?

[LooseWilly]

51. Since when is fascism considered a religion?

Since an ex-Nazi became Pope?...

[Kingofalldems]

8. Time for a Special Prosecutor

[Joanne98]

9. This story is HUGE! Stay on it.

[earth mom]

10. FYI-Make sure you back up ALL your information. Things disappear around here. nt

[Senator]

11. If any of this "missionary work" was done in conflict with US policy or interests...

...somebody may be guilty of treason. Particularly if any of the dictator-prayer-partners harbored terrrists.

--

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. Biblical capitalism?!

:wtf:

[NewJeffCT]

17. Supply Side Jesus

Recalling Senator Franken's book, "Lying Liars..."

[datasuspect]

33. supply side jesus

don't wear no stinking business suit

[deminks]

16. K&R&bookmarked. The sun is now shining

in a very dark place.

[libnnc]

18. k&r

:kick:

sunshine is the best disinfectant

[BolivarianHero]

19. Suharto was a fucking Islamic terrorist...

Ask any Chinese who lives in Indonesia, and they'll give that to you straight. He just happens to be the CIA's favourite Islamic terrorist...Funny how Christian fundies would like these sorts of barbarians.

[lunatica]

20. They just want to bring back the good old days of the Inquisition

When God's work was clearly carried out.

[Bluenorthwest]

21. Religion+ Politics= Blasphemy and traitorousness

always, always, always. God is in the Mix! One man, one woman! Sacred Sacramental Holiness! Defend against teh gay! Hallelujah!
When will the Office of Faith Based Discrimination speak out against this group? Or is their job limited to oppressing gay people and assisting 'the Family'? I hear nothing out of this famous Faith Based Office. When religionists blow things up or shoot someone dead, that Office has no comment. When the Family's Faith Based sedition is dragged into the light, DuBois remains silent, which is of course his tacit approval of the Family.
Not a word do they say to oppose them. They say lots of words to oppose equal civil rights for all. Lots and lots.

[Wednesdays]

22. K&R

:kick:

[Odin2005]

24. My God, these people are F-ing scary!

:scared:

[lunatica]

27. My sentiments exactly

And the fact that they're keeping this activity secret should be grounds for impeachment. If the voters had known about their practices in C Street would they have been elected anyway? It's doubtful. They ran under false pretenses and the people in their states should recall them.

They know that if they had been honest with the people the only votes they would have gotten would have come from religious wackjobs.

[rucognizant]

34. I TRIED!

To spread the word..........Wayne Madsen wrote about the Fellowship back in '02,'03? "The Christian Mafia" I posted and talked about as many places as possible and STILL BUSH was r-elected! well here, honestly,anyway. ANd he got away with theft elsewhere..because people didn't want to hear about the Fellowship.

[progressoid]

42. Wayne has some credibility issues. eom

[Echo In Light]

26. Bush White House checked with rapture Christians before latest Israel move

The Jesus Landing Pad
Bush White House checked with rapture Christians before latest Israel move
Rick Perlstein
Tuesday, May 11th 2004
It was an e-mail we weren't meant to see. Not for our eyes were the notes that showed White House staffers taking two-hour meetings with Christian fundamentalists, where they passed off bogus social science on gay marriage as if it were holy writ and issued fiery warnings that "the Presidents Administration and current Government is engaged in cultural, economical, and social struggle on every level"—this to a group whose representative in Israel believed herself to have been attacked by witchcraft unleashed by proximity to a volume of Harry Potter. Most of all, apparently, we're not supposed to know the National Security Council's top Middle East aide consults with apocalyptic Christians eager to ensure American policy on Israel conforms with their sectarian doomsday scenarios.

http://www.villagevoice.com/2004-05-11/news/the-jesus-landing-pad/

[ensho]

28. kick

nt

[pattmarty]

29. Well, I'll tell ya what, count me in if I can fuck a hot Argentinian..........

......or one of my "staff" or maybe a "parishioner" and get cleansed of my sins by holding hands in prayer with Tom Coburn. That would definitely make my day.:sarcasm:

[felinetta]

30. Again using the old God thing to rape and pillage. Are there ever any women who start

these dangerous nonsensical groups?

[edc]

31. The family

is just another horrible "chosen people" cult predicated on the concept of divine right and serving the interests of wealth and privilege. It should not be confused in any way with the spiritual teachings of the Carpenter.

[Echo In Light]

36. It could be argued that such people in fact represent an antithetical, antichrist embodiment

I've always suspected that if there were actually an 'anti-Christ' that it would be spiritualized/symbolized by a horrifically powerful structure corrupted by an ethos of greed, rather than it being one individual or deity...or whatever.

[cascadiance]

38. Could they be the group that Nostradamus was warning us about as the "antichrist"?

[Echo In Light]

41. My sister brought up Nostradamus the other day. I've not researched him, however.

In general I'd say the right represents what historically has been offered re the description of anti-christ(s): they choose to use rhetoric and symbolic representations of their ilk and the movement's overarching aims that stands in stark contrast to the actuality of those things. When they say peace, they mean war.

[florida08]

44. speaking of Nostradamus

About Bruce Bueno de Mesquita

A consultant to the CIA and the Department of Defense, Bruce Bueno de Mesquita has built an intricate computer model that can predict the outcomes of international conflicts with bewildering accuracy.
video
http://www.ted.com/talks/bruce_bueno_de_mesquita_predicts_iran_s_future.html

[PatSeg]

45. Exactly

There is nothing religious about these people. They are a modern day aristocracy, who feel they are superior to the lessor peons they represent. We can look back throughout history and see what other "chosen people" have done to humanity. God or in ancient time "The Gods" were always on their side.

I've order "The Family" and can't wait to read it. Frightening and fascinating stuff.

[florida08]

35. Why is

this not being covered in MSM? They need a solar flare on them.

[Echo In Light]

37. Powerful people and orgs consider it unfavorable data for obvious reasons

Hence it doesn't get a free ride down mainstream, and instead is marginalized w/the other "conspiracy theories."

[florida08]

40. agreed

but what is happening there is really not a conspiracy. NPR did a spot with Sharlet and Maddow of course did too. Washington Post picked it up..,sort of..Politico etc...I really don't expect them to pick it up and leave it for the discussion shows but they should if they were responsible journalists.

[dgibby]

48. Rachel has been covering it religiously (pun intended).

I've e-mailed her every thread posted about it on DU, and she's used most of them. I don't think she's going to drop it anytime soon.

[florida08]

49. Excellent!

and thankyou :thumbsup:

[Octafish]

43. Vereide started his group as a reaction to a longshoremans' strike...

Of course, things have gotten considerably stranger since 1934...

Palin, ‘The Family’ Linked To F.C. Church Defectors

[ChiciB1]

46. Good To See MORE Information Coming Out About This... But I've

become so cynical about what those in government are doing these days that I feel NOTHING will really happen to them. So many of "our" Democrats are involved too. They seem to have that "I got mine, you get yours" attitude.

I SOOOOOOOO WISH "we the people" could REALLY have more affect on what has been going on. Sure, there has always been something scandalous going on at any given time in our history, but it seems to be getting worse and worse! And news coverage from MSM gets downright "ditzy" so much of the time. While I feel Michael Jackson was a truly talented person, and his personal life was what it was, did we REALLY need a week of coverage??

I've been politically active for such a long time, and have tried to make a difference on so many levels, but it seems we always hit a brick wall! I just can't seem to muster enough enthusiasm to think these people will be held accountable. And trying to replace them is almost impossible. They have the MOOLA, and it TALKS loudly. I just learned the John Kerry has received over 8 million dollars from pharmaceuticals and health industries. Where HAVE I been??

Yeah, cynicism has made me become DEPRESSED too!

[tomm2thumbs]

47. 'If you can't keep it in your pants, at least keep it in the family...'

old saying that holds new meaning now

[Shallah Kali]

50. Maddow is going to have Sharlet on again tonight!

look for the video later on her msnbc page maddow.msnbc.com later if you don't get MSNBC

[Karenina]

52. . .