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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:18 PM
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Journalism profs take out full page ad to protest AP Chavez coverage.
Via BoRev:

Man oh man, how bad does AP reporting have to get before a group of Latin American studies professors from top U.S. universities decides they need to take out a FULL PAGE AD in the Columbia Journalism Review to respond? Bad bad.


Image is hotlinked to whole ad at link:

http://www.borev.net/2009/07/heres_an_interesting_question.html

'Way to go, AP!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:26 PM
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1. Yes, from the always impartial borev.net n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:28 PM
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2. BoRev now controls Columbia Journalism Review?!
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 04:28 PM by EFerrari
Damn you, Chenis!

lol
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:36 PM
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5. I wasn't aware that the advertising content of the CJR was considered journalism.
But hey, since we're just cold makin' shit up, have you heard about these magnificent ways to enlarge your penis, featured in the NEW YORK TIMES?!?!??
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:38 PM
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7. Where in my post did I say an ad was journalism?
I hope you get some support with that reading problem of yours. Good luck! :hi:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:39 PM
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8. Where in my post did I say anything about the CJR?
You brought that up.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:41 PM
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10. Yes, I did. In the OP. Maybe you're just in the wrong thread. n/t
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:43 PM
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12. Sorry, it was probably just a malicious mistranslation. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:53 PM
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16. Your malice is pretty clear. First of all, BoRev makes no claims
to impartiality. Second, he makes no claims to journalism.

But, thanks for kicking my thread. A few more Venezuela experts just like you, and it should really take off. :)
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:09 PM
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28. Sometimes "ignore" is a useful feature.
Especially a good feature to use with the semi literate that troll the pages of DU.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:11 PM
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30. Sorry. You're right. n/t
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:30 PM
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3. Hey!
One of the signers is a music professor from the University of Iowa.

See?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:33 PM
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4. Have you ever heard of the Venezeulan Youth Orchestra?
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 04:39 PM by EFerrari
Their method is being used in low income neighborhoods all over the US to get kids into music and off the streets.

See?

ETA: Actually, not only all over the US. All over the world. I just saw a clip on Global Report that showed the poorest district in England using their system.




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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:40 PM
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9. No, I never did -
I found that signature funny.

Still do ............
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:43 PM
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11. It's a wild program. They don't teach these kids, most of whom
aren't even eating properly, individually. THEY ALL PLAY AT THE SAME TIME. :scared:

Watching that segment, all I could think was that I hoped those teachers had damn good earplugs. Having survived my own student days on fiddle and my brother's elephant in labor aka sax, my heart went out to them. :rofl:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:44 PM
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13. Why don't they try feeding the kids instead?
I know my guitar work always suffers on an empty stomach.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:48 PM
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14. "They" being the United States" Great Britain? I agree.
It's too bad kids here don't have the same food security they have in Venezuela.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:52 PM
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15. Butbutbut, I thought Venezuela was a prosperous utopia under the Bolivarian Revolition!
Of course everyone had enough to eat before Hugo brought in price controls, but hey, whatever, it's revolution! Hooray!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:02 PM
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22. Kids in Venezuela today have more food security than they've ever had.
Thanks for the kick!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:17 PM
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31. there is a special place in heaven for people who teach beginning strings
yeah, woodwinds, too. but i have sat through many a beginning music recital and come home scarred for life.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:20 PM
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32. When I started learning the violin, my mom decided the garage should be a rec room.
lol

My brother got a bone disease when he was about 10 and he had to stop being super jock. So Mom the Genius went out and got him a sax. She was a genius because it saw him through the 18 months that his bones were growing too fast. But I remember this horrible moment when she and I were out weeding in the yard and we heard THAT SOUND coming from the house. We just looked at each other, aghast.

:rofl:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:38 PM
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35. my brother played the tuba for a while
my father recommended that he practice in the crumbling garage, in hope that he would at least accomplish the destruction it so badly needed.
on the other hand, my older son decided to teach himself, and has a very pleasant tone. not the least annoying. amazing man-child.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:39 PM
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37. Venezuela established a Department of Intelligence way back in
The late seventies. Not about spooks and spies, but about the nutrients that one needs to be intelligent. Also, The brain exercises that parents can do with kids to help them become mroe intelligent.

Increasing the public's awareness of Nootropics and other vitamin mixtures to help the brain function adequately.

Meanwhile the FDA under Obama bans vitamin B6 (unless there is a prescription), even though this is a vitamin known to help with cognitive functioning of the grey matter.


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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:49 PM
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40. Damn, you Obama, you Vitamin Hitler! n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:36 PM
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6. YAY
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:54 PM
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17. i wish journalists here cared enough to take an ad out against faux faux news
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:56 PM
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18. Who are the journalists?
We have a lot of talking heads but I'm not sure there are very many journalists.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:01 PM
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21. Isn't that the truth. I don't think it'll get better, either, until the business model
is restructured. :(
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:03 PM
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24. And that's the way it is.
it's a business model. Walter Cronkite wanted to inform.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:10 PM
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29. Between the networks deciding their news departments had to profit them
and ad revenue stalling at newspapers, this is a really bad time for American journalists. :(
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:04 PM
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25. dupe
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 05:04 PM by Catshrink
sorry about that.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:57 PM
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19. Media Matters tries hard but they don't get enough exposure.
It's not a bad idea, though. Hitting the industry journals. :shrug:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 04:58 PM
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20. The AP smears venezuela constantly. They reached the Millennium Development Goals

And nobody in the MSM even said a word!

Venezuela reaches the Millennium Development Goals

July 14th 2009, by Prensa Misión Permanente en la ONU
Geneva, 09 July 2009. In the general debate held at the high level meeting of the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations (ECOSOC) at its 65th session, the delegation of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela headed by Vice-Minister for Health Resources, from the Ministry of People's Power for Health, Dr. Julio César Alviarez presented the country's progress in terms of fulfilling the Millennium Development Goals, with special emphasis in the field of the right to health.

The Venezuelan delegate stressed that the economic and social policies implemented by President Hugo Chávez Frías have made possible the achievement of those Millennium Development Goals that have today become a reality in the country. He stated that Venezuela has improved significant variables in the Human Development Index, increasing from 0.7456 in 1988; to 0.8263 in 2007, which puts it at one of the highest places in the global ranking system. Similarly, he stressed that social investment has exhibited sustained growth, going from 8.4% of GDP in 1988, to 18.8% in 2008.

In the area of health, vice-minister Alviarez stressed that regarding HIV-AIDS, the number of people receiving free antiretroviral therapy increased from 1059 in 1999 to 25,657 in 2008. Further, he indicated that the infant mortality rate of 19 per thousand live births in 1999, has been significantly reduced, the ratio for 2007 of 13.7 per thousand live births of children less than 5 years of age.

Similarly, he explained that from 2000 onwards 7 new vaccines were incorporated into the strategy for disease prevention; he highlighted that in 2008 alone more than 32 million doses were administered, and that a historic figure of 8 656 988 doses had been produced, all supported in the framework of the Misión Barrio Adentro I and II.

Moreover, the government representative pointed out that the 29.8% of people in extreme poverty in 2003, was drastically reduced to 9.4% in the first half of 2007, far exceeding the target set for 2015, which was 12.5%.
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/4629

The AP hates Chavez because he paid off South America's debts and got the continent out from under the boots of the IMF!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:03 PM
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23. AP is horrible for the American public. They buried the 2004 theft,
they reprinted FBI faxes on the Amerithrax case. They're just gawd awful.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:07 PM
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26. Wait, are you saying the AP lies?
;)

K&R

:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:08 PM
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27. I didn't know that was such a controversial proposition!
:rofl:

:hi:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:21 PM
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33. knr #9 n/t
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:32 PM
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34. How does "Latino Studies professors" = "Journalism profs"? n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:44 PM
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38. Borev call them "Latino Studies" but they're mostly poli sci and history.
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 05:46 PM by EFerrari
You're right, I was reading too fast.

ETA: Too late to edit the OP.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:51 PM
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41. Big fucking surprise. The propoganda website lied to you.
So who was it that was the bunch of liars now?
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:06 AM
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43. It still appears to be the AP regardless of the fact that the website
linked got the title of the professors wrong. It appears that experts in Latin American studies had to take it upon themselves to denounce the AP's lies in print.

That is all.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:38 PM
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36. OT...
Venezuela youths transformed by music
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4457278.stm

"...The talented musicians of the National System of Venezuelan Youth and Children's Orchestras are a source of national pride, like football stars in other Latin American countries.

They have also inspired 23 countries across the hemisphere to launch similar music education programmes.

Troubled youths

Called El Sistema by its members, the programme is celebrating 30 years of making classical musicians out of half-a-million young Venezuelans, and it has transformed the lives of many underprivileged and at-risk youths in the process..."


Having fun at the Proms...

Venezuela Youth Orchestra - Bernstein - Mambo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWs9G-c_pcs



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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 05:45 PM
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39. I love this idea.
:)
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:44 AM
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42. K&R
:kick:
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