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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:45 PM
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The militia extremists of the '90s are back, and organizing quietly in the woods
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The militia extremists of the '90s are back, and organizing quietly in the woods

Posted by David Neiwert, Orcinus at 1:14 PM on July 18, 2009.

A couple of months ago, a newly formed militia reared its head in a familiar place -- the Panhandle of Northern Idaho.




A couple of months ago, a newly formed militia reared its head in a familiar place -- the Panhandle of Northern Idaho. Sisyphus at 43rd State Blues had a full description:

Sporting a photoshopped image of the Statue of Liberty with the torch replaced by an assault rifle, as well as displaying the flag from the "Republic of Idaho", another newly formed Idaho militia crawls out from the wilderness to register their displeasure with the status quo yet offering no solutions other than vague grade school platitudes and a thinly veiled threat of revolution. As is their wont they invoke the civil war cry of state sovereignty. ...


The General applied to be a sniper with them, and got a positive response. Kewl!

But it's not just northern Idaho.

It's occurring across a broad swath of the Northwest, mostly in rural precincts, as a Missoulian story recently explored:

“It's the old Freemen days,” Anderson said. “That's what we're seeing here again. And it's not just Lincoln County.”

Lincoln County Detective Capt. Jim Sweet agrees that “there's an uprising of anti-government groups that's definitely connected to the election of the Obama administration.”

Law enforcement agencies throughout the multi-state region, Sweet said, are “talking about the patterns. It's obviously bigger than Lincoln County.”

People are afraid of losing gun rights, he said, and they're stockpiling weapons and ammunition, and they want a sheriff who will stand up to federal agents.

“It's a power thing,” Anderson said. “They want the power to buck the fed and federal gun laws.”

Anderson said he traveled recently to Kalispell for an “intelligence meeting” with several federal, state and local jurisdictions - including the FBI, county sheriffs and city police - to discuss “this radical response to Obama's election, and to make sure we all know what's going on.”

And Sweet said he likewise met with authorities in northern Idaho to discuss the same “resurgence of the radical right. It's not something you can ignore at this point.”

Certainly, Anderson said, people have the right to gather and debate and prepare, but authorities similarly have an “obligation to try to stay ahead of the game, so things don't get blown out of proportion like they did before.”

Sweet believes the Eureka petitioners are likely “harmless in and of themselves,” but he worries that opportunists - more dangerous elements with increasingly radical anti-government sentiments - might be attracted to the activity in Lincoln County.

“Our fear is that, once it fails, their recall petition won't be good enough for them,” Sweet said. “We have people tied to the Freemen trying to take over the sheriff's office. We'd be foolish not to pay attention.”


At its most extreme, this same tide of paranoia and fearfulness is also washing up more bona-fide hate groups on our shores -- particularly our old friends the neo-Nazis from Aryan Nations:

"Six months ago, I had four contacts a month, wanted information and membership applications," O'Brien said. "Now it's up to four or five a day."...

"It means that white America is waking up," O'Brien said. "That's what it says to me that people are starting to get involved and understand the plight of our race.


The KOMO piece also contained a real nugget of wisdom from an experienced voice:

Eradicating the hate can be a long road.

"You never, never decrease the problem by ignoring it," said Tony Stewart of the Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations.



http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/141412/the_militia_extremists_of_the_%2790s_are_back%2C_and_organizing_quietly_in_the_woods/




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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:49 PM
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1. Where's a forest fire when you need one. n/t
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:50 PM
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2. "It means that white America is waking up," O'Brien said. "That's what it says to me that people are
Race.
It's always about race.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:55 AM
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19. They are bitter, gunloving, bible thumping, cowards
and they believe they are the great crusaders of the almighty whiteness.

I just hope that our SS, FBI and Homeland Security agencies are keeping a close eye on these sickening examples of America's underbelly.



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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:59 PM
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3. It's going to be even worse with an African-American president.
Their whole worldview is collapsing around them. Public sentiment is against them, demographics is against them. My generation, the Millennial Generation, is the most multi-racial and tolerant generation in American history. Their whole vision of America is under threat. As an African-American poster on a current events & history message board I frequent said:

http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/showthread.php?p=272949#post272949

...and most of America has taken a decisive step against racism with the election of Obama. With that step the racial supremacists and nationalists are in panic because their dream of a "white America" are disappearing before their eyes. The scary thing to them is that most whites are rejecting racialism and racism. With this, their rhetoric will become ever more extreme. For them, times are urgent as America rapidly browns and as racial boundaries are being eroded. Pat Buchanan is providing a rather moderate voice to these people.

My own viewpoint on all of this is that we are hearing the "last" push for life from white supremacy. We are into the fourth founding moment of the US. This founding moment doesn't celebrate a white America, but rather a multiracially diverse one in which racial identity either disappears altogether, or at least takes a back seat to other ways of cultivating an identity. For racists of all colors, this is a frightening development. But given the demographic trends in America, anti-racism is certain to win out.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 08:03 PM
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4. More like masturbating in the woods.
The unfortunate thing is that one in a thousand of these jerkoffs will actually turn out to be seriously dangerous, but you've got no idea which one it'll be until he blows up a building or shoots a judge.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 09:12 PM
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8. Or a doctor...
as in Dr. Tiller, or a church in Knoxville, or the Holocaust Museum in DC...

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 12:59 AM
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14. Yes.
And unfortunately all it takes to pull a stunt like that is

A) Being a wingnut.
B) Owning a gun.

Unfortunately, we can't monitor every wingnut with a gun.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 08:06 PM
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5. Que in all the new anti-terrorism laws they helped create and go get them. nt
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 08:10 PM
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6. "The plight of our race."
Ugh. Our real plight is sharing a genotype with the likes of YOU.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 09:02 PM
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7. This mindset is one of the few destinations gun love will take you.
The smell of gunpowder is intoxicating.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:41 PM
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10. You are truly the most gun obsessed person on DU.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 01:33 AM
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16. Agreed.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 11:12 PM
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21. Pot, meet kettle. -nt
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:52 PM
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11. Another idiotic post....
From a poster who doesn't know what they are talking out.

You are the one with the emotional attachment to fire-arms. Your fear and bigotry drives you.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 12:49 AM
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13. I'm the obsessed one? I'm stockpiling? I'm the one raging against being deprived of my kill toys?
Edited on Mon Jul-20-09 12:49 AM by sharesunited
No, I am the one calling out the erroneous, misguided and deranged, as the shoe may fit.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 01:36 AM
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17. Anyone who refers to them as "killing toys" shouldn't be allowed around firearms...
I'm actually really glad you don't own firearms. You clearly have a warped view of reality and could never be trusted to possess a firearm for a long period of time.

You'd probably accidentally blow your head off with your "toy".
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 02:11 AM
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18. You're trapped.
Unlike sensible gun-owners (or simply sensible people) you are trapped in the gun "mystique." It's not uncommon I'm afraid. You've attached emotions, motivations and actions to a simple tool. I'm guessing it's from movies, books and other cultural saturation.

Maybe it's just easier to blame a tool rather then the person behind it. It's childish, like a kid throwing his ball over the fence because he missed his basket.

"kill toys" that says it all. You have no idea what you're talking about. It's all fear and stereotypes to you.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 01:32 AM
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15. Gunpowder actually smells like shit. Believe me, I've fired many rounds at the range.
There is no intoxicating quality to it.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 09:26 PM
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9. Back, shit, they were never gone,
Diffuse, yes, but gone no. And they're not just limited to Idaho, never have been.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 11:57 PM
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12. They could always move to Alaska....oh, wait! n/t
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:00 AM
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20. K&R
:kick:
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