Kirk Cameron is a massive tool...

[armyowalgreens]

Part 2 of the RRS v. Kirk Cameron debate on evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_JfHnjqWVI&feature=related

The opposing side does not seem very well prepared. But even with their less than perfect responses, they make Cameron look like an absolute idiot.

How is this guy still going? Even with my limited knowledge of evolutionary biology, I could destroy him intellectually.

[Th1onein]

1. I feel sorry for Kirk Cameron

He got caught up in this shit when he was a kid and it ruined his career. Now, he's stuck making his money on "Way of the Master" shit and third rate fundie film versions of the "Left Behind" series.

[YOY]

9. From what I gathered he started dating some fundie chick during Growing Pains

I remembered one of those shows all about "whatever happened to..."

The fundie chick introduced him to her special little friends and soon he was only hanging around them.

He let his "faith" (I guess that's what the fundies call it) into the show and tried to be a major decision maker. Shot himself in the foot. None of the other actors mentioned really hearing from him after the show or really caring.

[roguevalley]

32. someone asked him why he was such a tool and he said he was

petrified of Satan and Hell. Poor dumb kid. Neither exist.

[kevinbgoode]

33. So his "religious" beliefs are based solely on self-preservation

and the bribe of everlasting life - a completely selfish, self-centered ideology. And then we wonder why these "it's all about ME" people don't do more for others, and they have to become members of organizations which require them to do something for others in order to cash in on their selfish forever life expectation later.

[KamaAina]

36. Of course they exist!

:P

[roguevalley]

44. BWAHA! I stand corrected. :-D

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

41. I remember when he got some actress kicked off the show

Julie McCullough was her name, I believe, because she had posed for Playboy. He and his family were so morally offended by her, but I remember an interview where he said it was "nothing personal" against her.

[MercutioATC]

2. Oh, c'mon.....he co-starred in THIS little gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfv-Qn1M58I

[armyowalgreens]

3. wooooooow.

:wow:

[MercutioATC]

4. Here's a decent rebuttal video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLqQttJinjo

[armyowalgreens]

6. I think that people like Kirk have a fundamental misunderstanding of everything...

"Look! The banana peels and is edible...God must have created it for us!"

No. We have adapted to consume the banana. We can't eat granite, can we? There are a billion different things that we cannot consume. But because we can eat a banana that somehow proves gods design.

Humans can consume chocolate and alcohol. Both are poisonous to dogs. Was God just fucking around with dogs?


oy vey teh stupid. It burns.

[Ian David]

10. Bananas are carefully cultivated grafted clones made by man. n/t

History of Bananas
http://bananasweb.com/bananas/History+of+Bananas

BLOOD BACTERIAL WILT OF BANANA: HISTORY, FIELD BIOLOGY AND SOLUTION
http://www.actahort.org/members/showpdf?booknrarnr=828_4

Banana History
http://homecooking.about.com/od/foodhistory/a/bananahistory.htm

[sharp_stick]

13. Now how can you possibly argue with that

I mean there is no comeback whatsoever to that kind of brilliant insight.

That was too funny, the fact that anyone can take that idiocy seriously is kind of creepy.

[JohnnyLib2]

16. Middle school girls play that at sleepovers!

No sound, large screens, endless giggles.

:wow:

[tridim]

23. By the same logic, god must want men to masturbate 24/7

It fits the hand very nicely and even curves the right way, just like a banana.

Eh fundies? :eyes:

The "it even curves towards the face!" part of that video made me LOL. What a freaking idiot.

[progressoid]

28. I think that is my all time favorite. You can almost see the homo-erotic thoughts bouncing around

in his vacuous head.

[AwakeAtLast]

31. Check out the most recent comment

:rofl:

I can't post it here, you have to read it for yourself.

:rofl:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

40. First comment:

"The banana also fits perfectly in your ass, which proves the Almighty God is a pervert."

[Stinky The Clown]

5. He's like a pod people

[stray cat]

7. Kirk is doing what he believes - not a tool its clearly his choice

[liberalhistorian]

12. I agree. He has the right to his beliefs and the right

to express them, just like people have the right to disagree and express that. As long as they're his own beliefs and it's his own choice, I see nothing wrong with it.

[GoneOffShore]

14. Still doesn't make him any less stupid -

I saw a quote on PZ's blog the other week:

"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."

Of course, I've had that experience here at DU when confronting some particularly egregious bit of woo

[Stargazer09]

24. ...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

39. I adopted that as a sig ages ago. And I'm not changing it anytime soon.

I suspect I raise the ire of some fundy trolls at DU even if I'm talking about cooking recipes. :evilgrin:

[Goblinmonger]

17. Yep, he has a right to his beliefs

and I have a right to call him a fucking moron for not "believing" in evolution.

He gets no special treatment because his beliefs are his religion.

[BlooInBloo]

35. He certainly has the right to be as stupid as he wants to be.

[Johonny]

25. cults like these RW fundie stuff

can be very addictive and just as life destructive as other cults. Just because the cult is "Christian" doesn't make it particularly pleasant scenario.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

26. Right, wrong, and right, respectively. -nt

[LibDemAlways]

27. Kirk used to live next door to a friend of mine. I met him a

couple of times and he was polite and friendly. He has remained friends with my friend and her family who are not at all fundie types. I think he is very sincere in his beliefs, and, I agree with you - not a tool.

[progressoid]

29. One can be a polite & friendly AND a tool

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

[LibDemAlways]

30. True, but I don't think being a fundie necessitates that one is also

a tool. As I said, this is a guy who is sincere in his beliefs. That doesn't necessarily translate to "tool."

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

37. No, you have other options, like batshit crazy, dumb as hell, or just plain evil. -nt

[Stevenmarc]

8. ROFL. he sounds like the Monty Python Duck/Witch scene

[warrior1]

11. damn

that video is homoerotic.

[WI_DEM]

15. Who?

[BlooInBloo]

18. omg! i HEART kirk cameron!

This is like one of the most famous youtubes there is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4

:rofl:

[JohnnyLib2]

19. See reply 16...

:toast:

[BlooInBloo]

20. hhahaha!

[RockaFowler]

21. That was tough to watch

Martin Baschir is an idiot and a terrible moderator. What kind of debate was that anyway?? Let's let Kirk Cameron spew garbage for 10 minutes then turn to the other side for 1 minute and tons of interruptions from Baschir. He's a tool and so is Kirk Cameron

[ProdigalJunkMail]

22. I can win the $10,000 right now...and so can you

we are ALL transitional animals...

sP

oh crap...the other guy JUST pointed that out...Note to Self : next time...listen to the WHOLE thing before making an obvious statement like that!

[Orsino]

34. For a massive tool...

...he's an incredible lightweight. He and his partner arrived unequipped for any strategy beyond disingenuity.

[Jennicut]

38. I used to watch Growing Pains all the time as a kid...very sad to see what a tool he turned out to

be.

[LynneSin]

42. Can you be any more insultive, geez!!!

:eyes:

How do you think massive tools feel being compared to Kirk Cameron. Just not right.

[tjwash]

43. Is Tony Dow gonna debate him on creation v evolution?

Who the fuck cares what some dipshit has-been pseudo-celeb believes? If it keeps him from roaming the hallways with an AK-47 then I'm all for it.

[Tristesse]

45. Just this morning...

I turned to TBN and there was Kirk, riding a tractor (!!!) and yammering away.

He explained (among other things just too stupid to repeat) that the reason women have miscarriages (no, NOT abortions--MISCARRIAGES) is because the USA does not honor God. At least I think that's what he said. After awhile I was beginning to wonder about a couple of things: (1) Do Kirk and I speak the same language? Language barrier might explain some of the confusion and (2) which of us is insane? Because clearly one of us is waaaayyyy out to lunch. And I have a feeling it ain't me.

Here's what I got out of his ravings: if all you bad, bad people would just stop lying, stealing, aborting babies (as opposed to having miscarriages I guess), committing adultery, blaspheming God, watching porn, and all the other really, really nasty things you do, people would no longer get cancer or STD's, all wars would stop, and....

Sorry to leave you hanging like this, but it was about then that I turned off the TV. I was suddenly feeling a bit unwell. Maybe God is mad at me too? According to Kirk, God is mad at an awful lot of people.

Except for Kirk and everyone who thinks (?) just the way he does.