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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 06:17 AM
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Snakes on the glades – Florida launches mass python hunt

Snakes on the glades – Florida launches mass python hunt

Death of Shaiunna Hare, two, sparks state to license trappers to hunt up to 100,000 pythons on the loose owing to exotic pet fad


B199GE Adult female Burmese python (Python molurus), escaped captive, Everglades National Park, Florida. Photograph: All Canada Photos / Alamy/Alamy


The death of a Florida toddler in the coils of an 8ft (2.5 metre) Burmese python has sparked an official crackdown to eradicate a menacing population of slithering predators in the sun-drenched holiday state.

A small band of newly licensed trappers hit the trail this week of pythons living in the swampy wetlands of southern Florida. Experts believe that as many as 100,000 of the reptiles are loose in the region, in an unfortunate outcome of a fad for keeping exotic pets.

Earlier this month, a two-year-old girl, Shaiunna Hare, was strangled to death in her bedroom near Orlando by a python belonging to her mother's boyfriend. The snake had escaped its glass cage during the night and wrapped itself around the child's crib.

The tragedy galvanised Florida's politicians into action over mounting alarm about the danger posed by pythons, which grow as long as 8 metres, weigh up to 89kg (14 stone) and can eat animals as big as deer.

"It's just a matter of time before one of these snakes gets to a visitor in the Florida Everglades," said Bill Nelson, a Democratic senator from the state.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/19/florida-santions-mass-python-hunt
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 06:25 AM
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1. Gotta like that.
A pet snake kills a kid, so they go after all the feral ones instead of, you know, putting better regs on the ones kept around kids.

If you get eaten by a snake in the everglades, well, tough shit, snake's gotta eat, too.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 06:30 AM
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3. All I can say is that snake was probably hungry
and hadn't been fed. I have had pet boa constrictors and they will not attack anything unless they are really hungry.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 06:39 AM
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5. Probably. Lots of underfed reptiles out there
Seems owners mistake "doesn't need to eat often" with "you don't need to feed them"

I used to keep turtles, myself, but I let them go (they were locals, it was cool) because I was worried about feeding them properly
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:28 AM
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19. Maybe. But boas are a lot more docile than pythons. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 07:00 AM
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7. This has been an ongoing problem in FL.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 07:08 AM
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9. Oh, I understand the ecological problems
I just think the logic given here is silly. "We're hunting them down 'cause someone's pet killed a kid, and someday one of these escapes might do that too" makes a lot less sense than "We're getting rid of them 'cause they're not supposed to be here"
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:29 AM
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20. But the death of a child provides the political cover for
spending money to take care of the problem in the Everglades.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 05:06 AM
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25. whatever get's the public behind it. Sometimes you have to use a little propaganda n/t
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 05:05 AM
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24. Not just a FL problem
these things can live just about anywhere that doesn't get regular below zero temperatures. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080223111456.htm
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:28 AM
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18. Those snakes are wrecking the ecosystem in the Everglades.
Florida should have been trying to clear them out anyway, but until a child was killed by a python, they didn't have the political will to spend the money.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 06:26 AM
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2. How about we license trappers to hunt down and eradicate a menacing
population of idiotic parents who keep dangerous wild animals around their children?
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 06:35 AM
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4. Good - they are an invasive species
and don't belong in the Everglades.

And in conjunction, they need much stricter control over the pet trade as well.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 06:41 AM
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6. Well, that would be a much more sensible reason, sure
Heck, even saying "We think they might taste good" would work. I've had snake before, it's okay, and lots of meat on those pythons.

But the reasons given are ridiculous
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 07:17 AM
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12. It's all part of 'deregulation gone mad'
People cannot import any damn thing they like without ecological and environmental consequences likes these.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 07:02 AM
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8. OMG - I'm going to spend my golden years somewhere that has snow.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 07:09 AM
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10. Blame the importers/retailers for 'snakes in the Glades'

I know that it was the practice back in the 80's to import large, gravid anacondas, hold them until they dropped young(which were eminently more sale-able than their big, mean ass momma)and dump the female into the canals to fend for herself. Anacondas are much more temperature sensitive than Burmese pythons and couldn't survive the winters, but if they did the same with Burmese.......

There are about two dozen invasive herps in Florida, and most can be attributed to the wholesale reptile trade.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 07:11 AM
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11. When I lived in Orlando 20 years ago,
months after we moved into a rental house, we found a boa wrapped around the silverware drawer one day. My roommate's son went to get a spoon and couldn't get the drawer open.

So he gave it a yank and the snake came out with the drawer.

We just heard this funny-sounding "Mom?" from the kitchen.

Yes, it was alive.
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State the Obvious Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:47 AM
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13. Florida: "Python Paradise" nt
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 10:24 AM
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14. What could go wrong?
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 11:23 AM
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15. I think I've heard it's essentially too late
The snakes are actively breeding, so it's going to be nearly impossible to eradicate them. But I'll be interested to see the results, though.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 05:10 AM
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26. pay a bounty, get all the rednecks out there hunting them.
we've been able to wipe out other prolific species that actually belonged here.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:01 PM
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28. good point n/t.
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 12:09 PM
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16. Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherf*****g snakes!
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WillieW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:48 AM
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17.  I hate snakes, can't even look at them IMO they are evil creatures
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:37 AM
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21. I like snakes. In fact, I have several amusing snake anecdotes
on my Pet Tales website:

"Snakes Got Feet!"
http://pettales.homestead.com/snakefeet.html

Ah! How Cute!"
http://pettales.homestead.com/howcute.html

"A Sidewinder on the Desk"
http://pettales.homestead.com/sidewinder.html

"My Snake Ate My Other Snake"
http://pettales.homestead.com/knot.html

Most of my articles are about other animals, though (including the one about the black panther that peed on me in Barcelona.)


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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 04:35 AM
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23. Thank you! Most enjoyable reading!
I like snakes too!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:26 PM
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27. When I ran my home daycare (for 18 years), we always had
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 01:27 PM by tblue37
snakes. (I had 4 milk snakes, and my friend with the boa used to bring him over to see the kids for short visits.) The kids loved the snakes--they found them fascinating and really liked holding them. Of course, I made sure they washed their hands thoroughly afterward, since reptiles can carry salmonella.

I am an animal lover generally (as all the articles on my site indicate), so my apartment was sort of like a petting zoo for the kids--cats, ferrets, snakes, lizards. What fun it was!

Now I have three cats, but that's all. Still, I often visit the pet store to play with ferrets, parrots, etc.

My snakes (the milk snakes) were eventually released out by the lake, where they have occasionally been seen by a friend, the amateur herpetologist who initially owned the boa, while he was out for his morning run. He says they have gotten quite big. I am hoping they are breeding, since milk snakes are a threatened but valuable species in Kansas and Missouri.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:51 AM
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22. Cobras too.
A guy I know used to be a tour guide in the Everglades. He once encountered a cobra on a trail. I wonder how that got there?
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