Solar Eclipse Pits Superstition Against Science(Predictions of Violence)

[tekisui]

Source: AFP

MUMBAI — Indian astrologers are predicting violence and turmoil across the world as a result of this week's total solar eclipse, which the superstitious and religious view as a sign of potential doom.

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Astrologers have predicted a rise in communal and regional violence in the days following the eclipse, particularly in India, China and other Southeast Asian nations where it can be seen on Wednesday morning.

Mumbai astrologer Raj Kumar Sharma predicted "some sort of attack by (Kashmiri separatists) Jaish-e-Mohammad or Al-Qaeda on Indian soil" and a devastating natural disaster in Southeast Asia.

An Indian political leader could be killed, he said, and tension between the West and Iran is likely to increase, escalating into possible US military action after September 9, when fiery Saturn moves from Leo into Virgo.

"The last 200 years, whenever Saturn has gone into Virgo there has been either a world war or a mini world war," he told AFP.

It is not just in India that some are uneasy about what will transpire because of the eclipse.

In ancient China they were often associated with disasters, the death of an emperor or other dark events, and similar superstitions persist.

"The probability for unrest or war to take place in years when a solar eclipse happens is 95 percent," announced an article that attracted a lot of hits on the popular Chinese web portal Baidu.com.

more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iJ9tZh4R3FEusQ1C_UQ7jxAyAU4g

[The Straight Story]

1. meh, nothing to worry about until Oct 17

:)

[lunatica]

2. It doesn't take astrology to predict what's in this article

Like there's no regional violence in India, China and Southeast Asian nations, and a rise in violence would be sooo different! And what a shocker! Tensions between the West and Iran could increase?! And there might be an escalation of a rise in US military action?!

:sarcasm:

posted here this is flame bait.

[sybylla]

4. Yeah, tough call there...

Once again the mystics go for the easy shot.

[tekisui]

7. If they had perdicted world peace would break out,

that would be sensational.

[backtoblue]

14. I wish someone would predict world peace.

But wait - they would be called the anti-christ and burned at the stake.


I wish for peace and I hope for enlightenment.

[madrchsod]

3. it could be a lot worse......

it could a total eclipse of the heart!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgRfvWAZw5w


no wait even worse!! a total eclipse of the moon!


http://en.netlog.com/go/explore/videos/videoid=2465753


oh no.....total eclipse of the son!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P59dhQ9td8c&feature=related

[DBoon]

8. i prefer this version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuSrsGzhD9U

[madrchsod]

9. oh no.....not klaus!

[blueworld]

5. Should I forward this to Glenn Beck?

Oh yeah - in the last xxx thousand years of human existence, has there been a period longer than 2 weeks when there HASN'T been unrest or war somewhere in the world? Anyway, why sweat it - the Mayans say the world will end in 2012 anyway. Throw your hat on the bed, walk under a ladder & live a little. :tinfoilhat:

[JanMichael]

6. The Mayans did not "say" that

"But scholars are bristling at attempts to link the ancient Maya with trends in contemporary spirituality. Maya civilization, known for advanced writing, mathematics and astronomy, flourished for centuries in Mesoamerica, especially between A.D. 300 and 900. Its Long Count calendar, which was discontinued under Spanish colonization, tracks more than 5,000 years, then resets at year zero.

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-03-27-maya-2012_n.htm

[redqueen]

23. Thank you! (nt)

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. The probability for unrest or war to take place in years when a solar eclipse happens is 95 percent

That's GREAT news!

Because the probability in all other years is 100%.

[Canuckistanian]

11. "Firey" Saturn?

Uh, no. The surface temperature of Saturn is about -200 degrees Fahrenheit.

Astounding to see such superstitious bullshit being taken seriously in the 21st century.

[specialed]

12. What is a mini world war?

Do countries draft just midgets?

[scheming daemons]

13. Since the beginning of civilization, science has battled against superstition.... and....

when science "wins", the human condition almost always improves.


when superstition (religion) wins, the human condition almost always deteriorates.

[lunatica]

15. astrology is not religion or religiously based

And it's been used for thousands of years and taken seriously. It's part of human history as much as ancient art or any other form of mysticism. It's a way that humans have tried to make sense of life. Whether we believe in it or not it has shaped human culture and history far longer than hard science has so to just dismiss it is to miss how important it has been.

[Bill McBlueState]

17. no objection there

But saying "astrology is important to human history" is different from saying "astrology makes reliable predictions."

[lunatica]

18. Well does science make reliable predictions?

Try selling that to the Fundies.

My point is, whatever you believe or not is personal. One person's scientific proof is another person's astrological prediction and yet another person thinks only what the bible predicts is what counts.

We're still debating the age of the planet and whether man lived along side the dinosaurs. Because you believe that astrology is nonsense doesn't mean others see it that way. It works as a predictive tool just like anything else does.

[Bill McBlueState]

19. "We're still debating the age of the planet and whether man lived along side the dinosaurs."

No, we're really not.

[lunatica]

21. Well if that's what you believe then facts shouldn't get in your way

Ask Sarah Palin what she believes about dinosaurs.

[Bill McBlueState]

24. well, that's pretty mushy

If a proposition is considered "up for debate" as long as you can find one willfully uninformed moonbat who bucks an otherwise broad consensus, then everything is up for debate.

[SpiralHawk]

20. "You betcha." - Ronald Reagan's Dead Republicon Astrologer*

* Courageously channeled by the intrepid SpiralHawk from the vast netherworld of Republicon occultism.

[pipi_k]

16. Violence and turmoil across the world...wow..that's NEVER happened before!!!

Now I'm really worried

:scared:

[Echo In Light]

22. Anyone have any knowledge of this off the top of their head??? (quote)

"The last 200 years, whenever Saturn has gone into Virgo there has been either a world war or a mini world war"

[tekisui]

25. I don't, and I can't find a list of when Saturn has been in Virgo.