Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why would any Democrat oppose Unions or Health Care Reform?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:49 AM
Original message
Why would any Democrat oppose Unions or Health Care Reform?
There are no two issues that more define what a Democrat is than these. So why are there Democrats in the Senate who stopped the Union Card Check Off and are opposing the Public Option for Health Care? (they should be pushing for Single Payer).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:52 AM
Response to Original message
1. it depends on whether you define those as the core issues
of the Democratic Party. If they are, well, than you are right. But presumably those blue-dogs would disagree with you.

Bryant
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:52 AM
Response to Original message
2. Bought & paid For
Seems clear to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:55 AM
Response to Original message
3. They are up for re-election in a Republican district.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:17 AM
Response to Reply #3
17. Yes, because Republican voters want shitty wages and poor health
LOL that excuse isn't working
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:55 AM
Response to Original message
4. Because they're New Democrats aka Not Democrats. n/t.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:56 AM
Response to Original message
5. Why would any Dem
be willing to happily accept anything less than a single payer system?

Yet there are some here who are giddy with the possibility that the present "reform" proposal just might be enacted. A proposal that will leave millions still without access to health care and facing penalties. But, het, I guess it is good for the conscience. We can pretend it helps.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:59 AM
Response to Original message
6. Democrats ain't what the used to be. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:20 AM
Response to Original message
7. Because we need New Democrats ?????
Democrats that act like Democrats at least 95% of the time
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:25 AM
Response to Original message
8. Gee...you wouln't be talking about Diane Lieber-stein would you?
Because you just described that worthless war mongering DINO perfectly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:56 AM
Response to Original message
9. because they are NOT really Dems

repugs in Dem clothing
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:15 AM
Response to Reply #9
16. because they're fascist-corporatists
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 12:12 PM
Response to Original message
10. Just because those are important issues for you, doesn't mean they are important to everyone.
There are plenty of other Democratic issues that are just as important or more important than those.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. Name two?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 12:37 PM
Response to Original message
11. I'm trying to keep it in mind that there are only three Democrats
who oppose the current HC Reform proposal. They don't oppose health care reform per se. That said, I'd like to deprive every one of them their "socialized" health care until they pass a damn bill for the rest of us!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 01:13 PM
Response to Original message
12. Because they believe that corporations are part of "we the people" they are supposed to serve...
And they have a warped sense of how much money a "person" has determines how much representation/support they get...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 01:42 PM
Response to Original message
13. Because they are corrupt, sold-out, faux-democrats. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 05:17 PM
Response to Original message
15. Because they're blue dog democrats, that's why. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 02:59 AM
Response to Original message
18. You can hate unions and still register as a Democrat and run for office. It's easy.
Party registration papers are all you need to enter the party. That's all. You don't really have to agree to the Democratic Party platform to register as a Democrat or run in a Democratic primary.

In fact, you'll probably get a lot more support from wealthy and well-connected individuals if you appeared to be against unions. They can run ads for you 24/7 to drown out your opponent. They really do have the cash to perform such a feat. This would give you an advantage in the race. If you win, you pay back the favors by blocking legislation that rich people oppose as a group, such as higher taxes on them and social programs they have ideological disagreements with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 01:50 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC