Get Ready for Pak War: Clinton Says 9/11 Ringleaders are in Pakistan

[tekisui]

Source: AP

NEW DELHI — U.S. officials "firmly believe" that al-Qaida leaders who planned and carried out the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, are hiding in Pakistan near its border with Afghanistan, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Monday.

At a news conference concluding three days of meetings, Clinton said Washington has told the Pakistani government what it believes about the location of al-Qaida leaders on its soil.

"With respect to the location of those who were part of the planning and execution of the attack of 9/11 against our country, we firmly believe that a significant number of them are in the border area of Pakistan," she said when asked about the U.S. view.

"We are actively looking for additional information that would lead us to them," she added.

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Pair those comments with reports that the captured soldier may be in Pakistan, and the city-embassy set to be built there. I see the war roads leading to Pakistan.

[Captain Hilts]

1. This is not a new view. nt

[tekisui]

2. It is a louder drumbeat.

[xultar]

6. Drama MUCH?

[EFerrari]

16. Yes, I think you're right. Pakistan is being sent a message. n/t

[tekisui]

3. dupe

[malletgirl02]

4. 3 wars

So instead of 2 wars we might me getting 3?That is just great, real great. :Sarcasm:

[xultar]

7. No. The OP is making complete tinfoil suits.

[readmoreoften]

18. Really? We're already bombing inside Pakistan and building two grand embassies inside.

That's a statement made out of documented fact not tinfoil. Ignoring reality doesn't make something go away. Christ, all the military folks are calling it AFPAK. We already have expanded the war inside Afghanistan. Just because one of our cronies is in power (after the assassination of a left-leaning challenger) and we're not going to declare war doesn't mean we're not going to have troops on the ground battling civilians... oh sorry, I mean "enemy combatants."

[xultar]

24. Exactly so where is the new war?

[readmoreoften]

32. That would be against the Pakistani Taliban, who are not the Afghani Taliban.

The Pakistani Taliban are a different organization than the Afghani Taliban. In Pakistan they're more of a left-leaning guerilla brigade fighting predatory landlords. They were not really connected to the Taliban in Afghanistan except for their Pashtun ethnic identity and didn't much get along until we forced them to help one another out by bombing both. Neither organization has any influence outside the Pashtun ethnic clan.

The embassies we're paying Halliburton to build are in Islamabad and Peshawar.

[xultar]

5. Get ready for war? Why do you say that? They've been there since 2002.

[tekisui]

13. Escalation and expansion of the Afghanistan War.

Watch.

[xultar]

15. Seriously, where in the flying fuckety fuck do you get that from this story?

:rofl:

[kjackson227]

19. tee-hee

[tekisui]

28. Connect the dots from many stories.

It's the drumbeat. I don't think I'm wrong.

[readmoreoften]

30. Amy Goodman, Anand Gopal, Jeremy Schahill, troops on the ground, the State Department...

You may want to stop laughing and get a lil' more respectful. Unless you insist that its not a real war unless you're fighting against the rulers of a nation. Hell, the supposed leader of Afghanistan is a US puppet. Is Afghanistan not a real war? If you say its not a "real war" unless Congress declares it then the War in Iraq doesn't exist. Or maybe you think its not a war until the President openly calls it a war. So if he doesn't declare it, it doesn't exist? That's a little 1984 for my tastes, thanks. How about a war is when one nation kills the people of another nation en masse on its own soil with or without the permission of its so-called officials.

If Bush said China could bomb around cities in Texas in the name of killing Mexican insurgents and the native Texan militias who are fight along side them, and weddings of Chicanos in San Antonio were getting bombed along with a few poor white folks, and China was building enormous 80 football-field long embassies--one in San Diego and another in San Antonio-- would you say China has expanded its war with Mexico to start a war against the people of the US? Or would you say it doesn't count because the Bush Administration is buddy-buddy with the Chinese?

Or maybe it's all just a joke because these people just don't count.



http://fpc.state.gov/120965.htm

http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/rizkhan/2009/05/20095684148133996.html

http://rebelreports.com/post/128133453/obamas-undeclared-war-against-pakistan-continues

About Jeremy Scahill
Jeremy Scahill is the author of the international best-seller Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army. He is a frequent contributor to The Nation magazine and a correspondent for the national radio and TV program Democracy Now! He is currently a Puffin Foundation Writing Fellow at The Nation Institute. Scahill has won numerous awards for his reporting, including the prestigious George Polk Award, which he won twice. While a correspondent for Democracy Now!, Scahill reported extensively from Iraq through both the Clinton and Bush administrations.

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/9/headlines#1

July 09, 2009

U.S. Drones Kill 45 in Pakistan

At least 45 people were killed Wednesday in two U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan’s South Waziristan region. It was the second consecutive day of U.S. drone attacks inside Pakistan and the sixth attack in just over two weeks.

[anigbrowl]

22. It's more about prodding our erstwhile allies to deliver on their commitments

It's not a new problem, and the Pakistani government(s) have been content to let it fester every few months if they're not reminded that we expect them to follow through on improving the security in N. Waziristan, not to mention cleaning house with the ISI.

I've been watching India/Pakistan foreign affairs for > 10 years (out of a personal interest in history and foreign policy, nothing official) and this is pretty par for the course.

[tekisui]

29. What about the city-embassy we are building?

The captured soldier possibly being in Pakistan is troubling, too.

[anigbrowl]

33. what about it?

A senior Pakistani official said the expansion has been under discussion for three years. "Pakistanis understand the need for having diplomatic missions expanding and the Americans always have had an enclave in Islamabad," said the official, who requested anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss the matter publicly. "Will some people exploit it? They will."
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/68952.html

Let's be realistic, there is a fairly high chance of someone trying to drive a truck bomb or similar into it. Pakistan is a rather dangerous country, remember Benazir Bhutto getting assassinated ~18 months ago?

I'm not surprised about the solider possibly being there. If you've been following developments in that part of the world it's obvious that the Taliban supporters have been playing cat-and-mouse around the Afghanistan-Pakistan border for years. It's a pretty lousy situation all round, where I disagree with you is the idea that this bit of news means things are suddenly getting markedly worse.

[The_Casual_Observer]

8. They knew this before they invaded Iraq & Afghanistan.

Tora Bora -> to tribal boarder Waziristan.

[xultar]

10. No shit. I guess there wsn't enough Drama on DU today. So the need to make shit up

comes in to play.

[readmoreoften]

9. That's why they've been calling the war AFPAK around the Pentagon.

How hard is it to catch a 6 foot tall plus man who needs regular dialysis? Especially when we have the JSOC assassination team dispersed around the globe.

Get ready for another Al Qaeda "2nd in Command" to be discovered. Probably by some mental patient who'll confess to anything.

[xultar]

12. Where do you get that from the story?

[Cant trust em]

20. That was my understanding of this as well. nt

[tekisui]

34. My concern is that this drip, drip, drip of

info leading to Pakistan is all too reminiscent of a march to war. All that is lacking is a fresh motivation to move into Pakistan. Heaven help us if we suffer another attack on our soil--Pakistan would definitely be next. And, the Democrats would be lining up to support it.

[leftstreet]

11. Isn't it time for a new enemy?

Does the Democratic leadership really think it can get more steam from 9/11 and terra-ists?

It's so yesterday.

Obama was the Peace candidate.
War is over.

[xultar]

14. OK. Did someone push DU through a fuckin stargate?

[SpiralHawk]

17. "9/11 Ringleaders? Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)

[ThirdWorldJohn]

21. Bush demanded that the Taliban turn bin Laden over to the US. When they asked for evidence of his

crimes be presented Bush refused to provide the proof. Bush called the Taliban's actions unreasonable but never stated why he felt their demand was unreasonable. And so we went to war with a country without the congress offering a declaration as the constitution requires.
So the people were left out of the loop on that one also.
Will this be the same road map that Obama will use?

[Echo In Light]

23. Ha...that's when they wheel out their phony "we don't negotiate w/terrorists" propaganda

Which prompts the question: how do they negotiate among themselves then?

[closeupready]

26. Same road map? Yes, I think so.

If it worked for Bush, Obama will follow a similar script. As with warrantless wiretapping, detention of enemy combatants without trial, etc.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. The Bogeymen have moved from Vietnam to Iraq to Afghanistan to Pakistan.

With no few sidesteps in between.

Now he is hiding at the end of the current tunnel that the politicians and generals are telling us close by.

[mmonk]

27. I'm confused. I thought Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was the mastermind.

:sarcasm:

[readmoreoften]

31. There are other "Number Twos" to catch. The 6ft+ dialysis-dependent #1 being so impossible to catch.

How could Cheney's ongoing assassination squads possibly catch Bin Laden? I mean, he could be in any one of the dialysis centers in Afghanistan and Pakistan. I mean there's got to be at least 10 or 20 of them!