I am seeing a repeated theme of 'naked' being used.

[RandomThoughts]

Hillary Clinton just said that if you watch Bollywood you would think all of India is dancing with happy endings. And if you watch American TV you would think people have no cloths.

Also

The picture from Air Force One had three naked people on the TV.


And their are lots more things that keep matching that theme.

I would think they should make a clear statement of what is meant by such thoughts. What is there view on the thoughts, or their perspective of the comment. What part of TV is naked, what is the significance of naked used in the statements, and what is each person, that says such things, view on the relevance of such a claim?

Without explanation its only funny, since it is on TV that I see the claims that TV is naked.

Anyone have any ideas what is meant by that?

[rd_kent]

1. I think I want what you are smoking

because I am not following you at all here.

[RandomThoughts]

6. You don't see the humor in that.

First off Naked could be 'emperor with no cloths' speaking of some controlling element of TV.

Or it could be biblical naked, and the many different usages in different texts, and the many different interpretations of naked by different groups.

The simplest is they are being seen for what they are.

The more complex get into many different false doctrines of shame and sin.

Its actually a deep topic, but I jumped into the topic by the collision of Hillary's speech and the picture on the TV on air force one.

You also have a continual reference to drugs, I am curious why do you do that when I have said that I do not do drugs? Do you not believe my statement, or did you not read my comment last time when I posted that I do not do drugs? Or is there another reason for making that statement?

[Occam Bandage]

9. I think the reason people refer to drugs in reply to your posts,

is that a great deal of what you post is absolutely incomprehensible, with only faint glimmers of order and meaning visible through the haze of word salad. Your thoughts seem very disordered, and you seem to have difficulty keeping your train of thought from wandering off in directions that are opaque and difficult to understand. In this way your posts are extremely reminiscent of the conversational style of people whose brains are impaired by drugs.

[RandomThoughts]

19. Sorry you don't understand the posts

Just out of curiosity.

Is it the person saying something or the person hearing it that has the mind 'extremely reminiscent of the conversational style of people whose brains are impaired by drugs'

[Occam Bandage]

21. n/t means "no text," and means there is nothing in the message body of the post.

The person with a disordered mind would be the person who wrote a disordered post. Inability to understand disordered thought is neither indicative of mental health or mental illness, as disordered thought is by definition difficult or impossible for anyone but the writer to understand.

[RandomThoughts]

22. Yet you reply with a lengthy comment on 3 keystrokes I made.

so you completely understood 3 key strokes, but could not understand the other posts? Isn't that a contradiction? It seems you understand parts of my posts, is their a connectivity you do not understand in the other posts? Or do you reply on the parts you want to think have some meaning?

[Occam Bandage]

27. The problem is not on the syntax level.

The problem is that the concepts you wish to convey are frequently disordered.

[RandomThoughts]

28. We will have to disagree, I find great order in such things.

But I understand you may see it from a different perspective. :) no hard feelings.

However the thoughts must have something to them, to give you the feeling of a need to label them as disorder.

[Occam Bandage]

30. That would be the issue, yes.

I'm not attempting to silence you or berate you or label you or anything of the sort. I'm simply saying that I'm starting to believe your thought process is a little bit disordered. If you think there's a perfectly functional, normal human being in front of that computer screen of yours, then great, let's disagree and move on. If you've noticed other people have been acting strangely as of late (or if you've noticed people tend to be quite different from you) you might want to consider getting a checkup. Cheers.

[RandomThoughts]

43. Cheers :) and your concern is appreciated,

I understand you are being kind in your comments.

[A HERETIC I AM]

32. Perhaps I can be of assistance.

Fishwallop generator has clandestine transmission of glass kinetic careful lettering.


Each word in the above sentence means something. When strung together they may or may not convey some cryptic message.

The fact that you are unable to decipher it is your fault, not mine.

:evilgrin: :hide:

[Occam Bandage]

41. That's more an analogue to the problem.

Each word has a lexical meaning (except maybe fishwallop, which I've never seen before), but the sentence is neither syntactically nor semantically valid. "Generator" and "transmission" lack determiners, and there is no semantic overlap (that I can think of) between "glass," "careful," "kinetic," and "lettering." If you fix those errors, the sentence is perfectly acceptable. It could become something like, "The generator has a clandestine transmission of careful glass lettering," which is an uncommon sentence but a reasonable one. Perhaps an spy has etched some information on a small shard of glass, and has used a generator as a dead drop.

The issue I've noticed with rt's posts is not semantic, syntactic, or lexical. It's pragmatic. Rt's sentences make sense taken by themselves; they simply occasionally do not make much sense within any context, nor do they always convey an easily decipherable intent.

In that sense, I think your sentence is an analogue to the problem (being an example of how an utterance can be linguistically valid along one axis and not along another), rather than an illustration of the issue at hand precisely.

(Linguist. Not a cunning one.)

[RandomThoughts]

46. fishwallop is the easiest part of his comment to figure out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s

Although the context is questionable. LOL

[RandomThoughts]

45. LOL

There is much more to it then that. LOL

[Mythsaje]

57. I think it's all tied in with the "Random Thoughts" identity...

It's a stream of consciousness thing rather than what we'd see as "organized." Nothing wrong with it, even if it ISN'T the way my mind works... Unless, of course, I'm both stoned and in the company of certain friends who operate on a level that we're able to come very close to reading one another's thoughts.

[rd_kent]

13. "You also have a continual reference to drugs"

WTF are you talking about?

[RandomThoughts]

20. ha, my mistake

guy that uses the same avatar as you said this to me yesterday.

"You really should ease up on the smokin' on Sunday arvo's"

So I combined him with you, thinking you were the same person when I replied. I guess you as an individual did not make repeated comments about drugs. My mistake there.

Occam Bandage was also in that thread yesterday, so I sorta combined you three together when thinking of your comment.

[rd_kent]

35. No worries, although I see a pattern developing here

with the responses to your posts. There may some merit to it.

[RandomThoughts]

47. Well if you are looking at patterns,

then I have to type all your posts you made about me, back to you.

Full circle, we are.

[rd_kent]

50. I dont understand

you are just too far above me, I guess.

[RandomThoughts]

55. Well what seems disordered is wave jumping.

instead of taking one thought, you find patterns in many thoughts, and form a new tale. it is like skipping on waves, finding the high points of something and forming new thoughts from them.

It is pattern matching.

It looks disjointed, because you are trying to follow it within a linear flow within linear single item source. If you take a bunch of things, find correlations between them, they tell different stories then any one thing tells, many times it form huge streams across many seemingly unconnected events.

So what you see as disordered is just ordered patterns. And since you say you saw a pattern in how people comment on me, you are doing the same thing, using many sources, finding a commonality and making a conclusion. So everything you posted about me being disordered, I could now post to you. But I don't think your conclusion is disordered even if I disagree with it.

[KakistocracyHater]

58. Greek & Roman nakedness hews close

but let's not focus on magick now, I think it's weird

[Occam Bandage]

2. I'm beginning to believe you may not be mentally well,

though I'm hoping it's simply the case that you enjoy posting on Democratic Underground while under the influence of psychoactive drugs.

[RandomThoughts]

7. your view of my mental health does not change the humor in the post.

You are also in sync with another poster so I will ask you what I asked him.

You also have a continual reference to drugs, I am curious why do you do that when I have said that I do not do drugs? Do you not believe my statement, or did you not read my comment last time when I posted that I do not do drugs? Or is there another reason for making that statement?

[leftstreet]

3. You just copy/pasted your brain, didn't you?

:rofl:

[RandomThoughts]

8. Good one.

:rofl:

Duzy LOL

[rd_kent]

14. Now THATS funny!

[Z_I_Peevey]

4. All three?

Damn.

[Occam Bandage]

5. Don't tell me Jeb Bush is all in your house with disease. nt

[Z_I_Peevey]

10. Ok, I won't tell you.

But there was an Eye-Spy business card left on the porch.

[RandomThoughts]

12. Could you explain the meaning of that?

Or are you trying to make things complicated by covering the simplest answer, with comments including people everyone here seems to disagree with, and adding comments to disease?

[Occam Bandage]

16. Yes. It was a reference to Lee Mercer Jr., as were the posts by Z_I_Peevy

that sandwich my post. Lee Mercer was a fringe candidate for President, who became the topic of much derisive humor during the 2008 primaries, as a result of his strange and incomprehensible website.

http://wonkette.com/297224/meet-your-new-president-lee-l-mercer-jr

[RandomThoughts]

23. I have heard of that guy before, he sounds a bit strange.

Are you a fan of his?


Heh on a side note, my reply even not knowing the quote you were using, was still accurate.

[Arkana]

11. All glory to the Hypnotoad?

[RandomThoughts]

15. Is the TV the toad? That sorta makes sense.

Note that in my view, frogs get no glory, nor do I associate with nor appreciate frogs.

I assume you were being sarcastic and calling TV a toad.

[masuki bance]

31. "Frogs get no glory.." Dude, that's harsh. nt

[Arkana]

54. Actually I was making a Futurama reference, but whatever works for you.

[ColbertWatcher]

17. The White House is promoting their Anti-Tan-Lines Agenda? n/t

[nebenaube]

25. No

They were watching the original "Planet of the Apes" movie on AF1. Someone just happened to take a picture shortly after the beginning of the movie.

[ColbertWatcher]

56. Opps, I forgot to post that my name is COLBERT WATCHER and I'm kidding. n/t

[redqueen]

18. Perhaps it's a subliminal campaign to encourage people

to go nude whenever the weather allows. And where it's leagal, of course.

Yes, I'm sure that's what it is. They want us to start more nudist parks and nudist colonies and that kind of thing.

I'm all for it.

[county worker]

33. Speaking from experience, the people you would like to see naked would not go to the parks and the

people you don't want to see naked do go to the parks.

[redqueen]

34. See? What about be?

I have no interest in seeing anyone naked.

I love that those places are such a huge disappointment to those who apparently just cannot find enough titillation elsewhere.

[county worker]

36. I'm sorry, I should have said something like those who want to see people naked

[TrogL]

24. The movie on TV is 'The Planet of the Apes'

...and the characters in that particular scene are partially clothed IIRC.

Nudity is an issue going back to biblical times.

[Forkboy]

29. Beat me to it!

Love that movie. :)

[shadowknows69]

52. Yep, caught that.

[masuki bance]

26. The naked people in the tv, what are they saying? nt

[RandomThoughts]

40. When I first saw that picture, I tried to find that clip from the movie.

Only found opening scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB74Wxp8BWw

But nice catch, didn't think to check the script, got in now.

LANDON
(looking off)
Dodge ... he's not like me at all. But
he makes sense. He'd walk naked into a
live volcano if he thought he could learn
something no other man knew. I understand
why he's here.

But you...You're no seeker.
You're negative.

The scene in the waterfall was just before they saw all the people with no voice.

[RandomThoughts]

42. When I first saw that picture, I tried to find that clip from the movie.

Only found opening scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB74Wxp8BWw

But nice catch, didn't think to check the script, got in now.

LANDON
(looking off)
Dodge ... he's not like me at all. But
he makes sense. He'd walk naked into a
live volcano if he thought he could learn
something no other man knew. I understand
why he's here.

But you...You're no seeker.
You're negative.

The scene in the waterfall was just before they saw all the people with no voice.

[masuki bance]

44. No, in the picture, what are they saying to us?

What message do they have for us?

[RandomThoughts]

51. Well at that exact scene, or as close as I could tell.

where all three are in the pool. From the script at
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Planet-of-the-Apes,-The.html

they are saying

Hey, Taylor! Look at this --

:shrug: So looking at the picture :shrug:

Even though I am not the Taylor character, I assume it was a comment to the right wing, so figured for many to see it it should be translated.

How is that for crazy :)

Actually it might be directed at nihilist since that was sort of the Taylor character, and with no offense and with compassion to the friends and family of Billy Mays, it seemed that Willy Mays, happy on the plane, might have meant it had a marketing slant to it, or a negative comment to marketing. Which is alot of the nakedness of TV.

:shrug:

[KamaAina]

37. In a completely unrelated story, the Naked Cowboy is running for mayor of NYC

Seriesly.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8939675&mesg_id=8939675

edit: header

[Gwendolyn]

38. Did you read her comments about culture in context?

"Among the scores of hands that shot up as soon as Clinton finished her 20-minute address was that of a student of the Jamia Milia Islamia University who wanted to know if there was a point of convergence between India and the US, which are “so different culturally”.

Literally conjuring up an image in response, Clinton said: “If Hollywood and Bollywood was the way how we lived our lives, it would surprise me! And yet it’s often the way our cultures are conveyed”.

“People watching a Bollywood movie in some other part of Asia think everybody in India is beautiful and they have dramatic lives and happy endings. And if you were to watch American TV and our movies you’d think that we don’t wear clothes and we spend all our time fighting with each other!,” Clinton said even as the crowd roared with laughter.

“We, therefore, have to break these stereotypes and student exchanges are a way of cutting through the clutter and understanding that our hopes and values are similar,” she added."

http://www.link

[RandomThoughts]

49. Thanks for her full quote

I was only spring boarding off it to find a segway into some other thought. Partly with humor partly with thought.

I did not find full quote when posting original OP.

[kenny blankenship]

39. Planet Of The Apes?

Just a guess.

I think they are trying to tell us, through the arrangement of their rearward facing faces in staggered sympathy with the rearward facing rears on the television within the television not to fear the future, since in the future human civilization will have been destroyed by atomic warfare and a new order of agrarian simian benevolent dictatorship will restore natural ecological balance and abolish anthropogenic technological negentropy, which so often induces our future anxiety in the present. Then Chuck Heston will re-arrive from the past to give humans a new start with voiceless hot females. Since he, the Lawgiver of the Exodus, can be trusted to finally GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME!, it's all good. Or will be.

[KittyWampus]

48. Well, naked would be a theme we should all get behind!

[snake in the grass]

53. Be that as it may, Bollywood movies...

...make me sick.