So - what is so great about Obama that the rest of the World should celebrate about?

[ConcernedCanuk]

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I see no pullout of troops from other people's nations - rather I see an escalation - particularly in Afghanistan.

No solutions in a positive way for the trade problems around the globe, including us Canuks.

No solution for the supposed threat from NKorea

No productive dialogue with China regarding the quality of it's products that North America depends on

No decent effective proposals for Health-Care for USAmerican citizens,

No dealings with Russia that would produce peaceful alignment; etc., etc.

Make no mistake, I am glad that Bush and his gang are gone(but I wonder, - are they really?)

When I go to the hairstylist, say do this, do that - I WANNA SEE A DIFFERENCE!

I see no difference really . .

really . .

(sigh)

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. well if you can do better let's hear you

[Sebass1271]

2. ugh....

[Mari333]

3. why are you surprised? Multi national corporations run the USA

and they run the politicians. including most Dems. it will be a cold day in hell before we have a POTUS with real change.

[ConcernedCanuk]

7. Mari - I am not surprised - just severely disappointed . . .

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remember

"Change we can believe in"?

(sigh)

[Mari333]

19. I am disappointed but now I am in acceptance mode

I expect no change in my lifetime.

[Mari333]

22. aww dont let the Obama cheerleaders getcha down

suddenly they are wrapping themselves in the flag. how odd.
oh and thanks for keeping our concientious objectors and war resisters safe .
I love Canada.

[Xipe Totec]

4. And I haven't seen him do anything to stop the eventual heat death of the universe

Four billion years from now...

[timeforpeace]

8. Right on. Take that, canadia.

[Buzz Clik]

5. Same old shit, different day. "What difference?"

How many fucking times a week does someone have to post the progress being made before you braindead sheep stop asking us why Obama is no different than Bush?

Go away. Don't come back.

[Stephanie]

6. I always thought Canuck was spelled with a "C"

[Maru Kitteh]

9. Don't you have any Canadian shit to worry about? This is like you bitching about how the hairstylist

cuts your neighbors hair.

I'd like to say some other things, but my post would get deleted.

[ConcernedCanuk]

15. "Canadian shit" as you describe it - includes the behavior of our closest neighbor/trading partner

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How the USA behaves affects us greatly - -

UNLIKE

how Iraq behaved before the USA invaded, occupied, and destroyed much of it.

I do NOT see it unlikely that the USA would consider treating us Canuks like Iraqis . . .

Invade us and occupy us for our resources . . . .

Why not?

Because y'all like and respect us so much??

Makes me ponder . . .

[Maru Kitteh]

27. Yeah, you got us. That's our next big plan. March on Canada.

We covet your Canadian cuisine.

Good God.

Mindyaown damn bizniss and rest easy, the world will continue to ignore you, for which you should be grateful.

[Baclava]

33. "Invade Canada"? No need.

We already own the Stanley Cup.

[HeresyLives]

10. I see an huge difference.

I'm very surprised you can't.

But then you want contrary things: You want 'troops out of other people's nations' but you want an American 'solution' to North Korea.

As to trade problems and world product standards...that has to be done through global institutions like the WTO. Obama can't just make pronouncements, you know.

He's just been to Russia, and they have agreed to 'reset' the relationship, and signed a deal on nukes.

And as to healthcare, he's working on it right now. This week and next.

Moreover, the world has relaxed. There is a notable lessening of tension, and an enormous store of goodwill for Obama.

He's only been in office 6 months you know. It's not like he has a Harry Potter wand he can wave to instantly make 8 years of disaster magicially disappear.

Edited to add: I am also Canadian, and I would much prefer Obama and his ideas and progress to that toad Harper, that WE have in office.

[stray cat]

11. Take a look at the last 8 years and think of 8 years under McCain Palin - you can get it

think really hard if you really don't see a difference between McCain Palin and Obama. Do you really think Gore and W are twins as well?

But I guess you were really out of touch with what happened in the US over the last 8 years - glad your economy is evidently so peachy!

[SpartanDem]

12. If you don't see a difference then you're blind

he was just in Russia a couple weeks ago where they came to an agreement to reduce their nuclear arsenals. That is a major fucking deal in my book. As for North Korea you think a situation like this could be solved in six months? We just made a major deadline in our pullout from Iraq last month. Also whether you agree with it or not Obama said that he was putting more troop in Afghanistan.

[Solomon]

13. LOL You Guys Kill Me

:rofl: Really you do.

Even you don't believe the shit you wrote. LOL

[Spazito]

14. Wearing blinders always results in not seeing stuff...

and by your post, I would say there is a BIG blinder problem here.

[ConcernedCanuk]

18. I asked a question - your response is not an answer . . .

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[Spazito]

23. Actually, what your post is about is a pathetic attempt to smear President Obama...

in the guise of a question therefore the 'answer' I gave was quite appropriate.

[ConcernedCanuk]

24. Alberta . . .

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hmmm

[Spazito]

26. Yep, St. Albert, Alberta...

but that has what to do with calling you on your post attempting to smear a Democratic President?

There are red herrings and then there are RED HERRINGS and you just tossed a doozy.

[otohara]

16. Feel Better?

Here's a thought or two.

Why don't you tell those folks at the hairdresser what President Obama has accomplished?

Maybe you don't know because you're Canadian - that far, far away foreign country.

As far as the escalation you see - that would be correct, he always said he would send more troops to Afghanistan.

[ConcernedCanuk]

21. What am I doing to encourage Obama keeping his promises?

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commenting on this board

this is what a discussion board is for, right?

to encourage discussion?

I don't know what else I can do from Northern Canada . .

maybe just provoke some productive discussion

that's it . .

that's why I'm here

If I can influence one mind that has the connections to make a difference,

then my posting is a success.

Snarly comments won't put me off . .

sorry - it won't work

[Mari333]

28. you have every right to comment and be concerned

dont let the cheerleading squad bother you.
HUGS

[Occam Bandage]

17. Thank you for your, er, concern. nt

[johnaries]

20. LOL! At least he's consistent with his screen name. nt

[Bluzmann57]

25. 6 months in

He cannot be expected to solve everything in 6 months.
Imo, Afghanistan was and is a neccessary military action. The Taliban is evil and must be defeated.
Canadians can solve their own problems. You have been saying that for many years.
North Korea is a complicated issue and can't be solved overnight. It's been nearly sixty years in the making.
China has a lot of money and a lot of people and we should have them as some sort of trade partner.
Health care is being worked on.
Russia poses no real threat to the USA at this time.
Now it's time for you to go.
I am glad that Obama is taking on America's woes first. The bushies left things a mess and it will take time. Again.
On edit- it's also likely that a majority of Americans will ever give a shit about hockey either. So should Obama take care of that as well?

[anigbrowl]

29. Right. Because running the country is exactly like having your hair restyled.

Up next: is your foreign policy smarter than a pedicure?

[graywarrior]

30. I'd love to have Obama style my hair

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[VOX]

31. The U.S. should have elected your *hairstylist* to razor-cut and blow-dry these big changes, pronto.

"what is so great about Obama that the rest of the World should celebrate about?"

1. McCain-Palin are not holding the steering wheel, and that's something to celebrate every bleeping day.

2. America elected an African American as the highest office-holder in the nation -- that is an astonishing landmark historical event that will resonate for decades.

3. The rest of your list is being worked on; please hold for the next available associate. The president is very busy but values your input and opinions.

[gleaner]

32. If you stop to consider.....

the sheer number and amounts of the messes that the Bush administration left to be cleaned up, maybe you can see Obama a little more kindly.

I have never seen a president inaugurated only six months ago who is being so assailed because he has no magic wand to wave to make the mill tails of Hell, which were handed to him, disappear. He is trying his best as far as I can tell and he is actually making some headway though it is not as much as he would like. But for heavens sake give the man a reasonable amount of time before you consign him to the deep.

Everything you have listed is a Bush created situation with no easy solution. I'm not an apologist for Afghanistan. I don't believe in war, and I don't see what good it will ever do. I think we should have gotten out of there long ago, so I'm not a good person to ask on the ins and outs of that.

The trade problems around the globe are going to take as long to resolve as they did for Bush and his ilk to create. The U.S. is staggering under a recession. Bush's trade policies were disastrous and left us untrustworthy in the eyes of many nations which are reluctantly and timidly beginning to negotiate with Obama.

How would you solve the situation with North Korea? Bush spouted a lot of hostile and threatening rhetoric about the "axis of evil," but did nothing about their development of nukes because it would have required Bush to sign a nuclear non proliferation treaty in order for him to do anything about their production of nuclear weapons. Bush wanted his own nukes to use wherever it struck his fancy. He was not about to give that up even for a real and developing threat that everyone else could see in North Korea. So in comes Obama and is presented with the North Korean nuclear missile prize. What is he supposed to do? Start yet another war? Engage them in a dialog which Bush has made impossible by his reckless statements and threats against them and his refusal to participate in any kind of diplomatic engagement?

How possible do you think it is to have a discussion with China on quality control? China is our major creditor. They have shown a disinclination to discuss most things with any country in the outside world. Do you remember that they would not discuss the nature and scope of their Bird Flu epidemic a few years back even to help formulate a vaccine or stop its spread both in China and to the rest of the world? It took the United Nations to force them to disclose any information about that at all, and as I recall the government official responsible for handling the Bird Flu situation committed suicide. So here we have a very insular nation who also holds all of our paper and sells us most of our trade goods. I don't think anybody is going to make demands on them that they are going to take seriously. They don't have to. They have already bought us.

Obama is pushing for health care reform but he is fighting the Republicans, the lobbyists and even members of his own party. It is not an issue he can deal with alone, he has to move it through Congress. Some members of Congress are about as friendly as North Korea. Be glad they are not making their own nukes.

Alignment with Russia? Bush screwed that pooch. Bush cuddled up to Putin, got a dialogue going and then let it blow to shreds when he condemned Putin (among other things) for treating his terrorists the way that Bush was treating the people in other nations that he was making war on. Putin pulled inward and here we are. Do you think if you allowed Obama time to approach Russia diplomatically in such a way that they would not lose face that it might help? It would take time, but I'm sure he's thinking about it if not already acting upon it.

In the context of all of the problems that the Bush administration left behind them, they are not gone. Those problems will be with us for years to come. If you are asking if the Bush people are still making policy for the U.S government, the answer is no. They are too busy trying to convince us that torture isn't really torture, that warrantless surveillance wasn't really unconstitutional or a crime while revving up their crosscut shredders to destroy evidence of all of their illegal actions. I think that the news media gives far too much weight and time to what they say. They were, after all, voted resoundingly out. I, for one don't want to hear it any more. We had eight years of their crap. They should be in jail serving time for the criminal acts they committed, not yammering away endlessly on the 24 hour news circuit.

By the way, hello Canada.;) I was on a forum with some other Canadians a few years ago who explained your parliamentary system and how it worked. It is dazzlingly complicated, but I think I finally got it.:toast: