izzybeans
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Tue Jul-21-09 09:48 AM
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If people are so worried about deficits, please consider the $33 Billion elephant in the room. |
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http://it.usaspending.gov/ It's not just the wars, its the empire of bases worldwide that is sucking us dry.
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Tue Jul-21-09 10:01 AM
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1. That's just the IT budget of the DOD. The real budget is about $900 billion a year. |
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Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 10:05 AM by sinkingfeeling
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izzybeans
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Tue Jul-21-09 10:22 AM
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3. Unfortunately it's the only graphic I could find |
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Tue Jul-21-09 01:51 PM
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10. yeah, i was just going to say... $33 billion is peanuts, relatively speaking... |
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on the grand scale of our total defense (offense?) budget....
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Tue Jul-21-09 01:56 PM
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11. I want to find a similar graphic that has the overall total budget |
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i figured the IT budget could stand in as representative of the ridiculous disparity between spending on defense and domestic spending.
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Tue Jul-21-09 10:11 AM
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2. If we were to close nine out of ten foreign bases, the personnel on the |
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remaining 10% would outnumber the foreign-stationed military of all other countries combined.
Why do we seem them as necessary when NOBODY else in the world does?
It doesn't even make sense in a rapid-deployment scenario, as they are not used for that. When we went into Afghanistan we didn't deploy troops from Europe within 48 hours - we deployed from the States in 48 days.
The only reason we 'need' them is because the military SAYS we need them.
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Tue Jul-21-09 10:26 AM
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4. Forget social security, defense spending is the third rail |
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We're so propagandized, as a whole, in this country that any attempt to try and cut it significantly is pretty much career suicide.
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Tue Jul-21-09 10:29 AM
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Tue Jul-21-09 10:26 AM
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5. I just started reading Chalmers Johnson's Sorrows of Empire |
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http://books.google.com/books?id=KbQNfg0ws-IC&printsec=frontcover&dq=chalmers+johnson+sorrows+of+empire&client=firefox-a It's striking how similar the fall of Rome and the contemporary U.S. predicament parallel. The debt fueled by militarism, the decadence of the ruling class, and the weakened democratic institutions, etc.
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Tue Jul-21-09 10:38 AM
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7. "Reagan Proved Deficits Don't Matter"..Dick Cheney |
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:shrug: Cheney would never tell a lie so don't understand why so many Republicans are worried about Deficits...
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Tue Jul-21-09 11:44 AM
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8. Until 6 months age the republicans were not worried about deficits. |
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What changed for them? Oh yeah, that fringe, far left, liberal lunatic , socialist black guy that tanked the soaring bu$h economy by taking an oath on 1/20/09. I almost forgot.
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Tue Jul-21-09 12:08 PM
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9. We could save billions of dollars |
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if we de-activated one carrier strike group and two ballistic missile submarines. We should also revert back to the corporate and personal income tax rates of the early 1950s.
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