Anyone know of any debunking information about this 30,000 signers anti-global warming thingy

[Maraya1969]

I looked around the site and apparently you have to print out a petition, sign it and send it in. I can't believe that they found 30,000 people to do this. Plus I have looked up a few names and the only thing that came up on GOOGLE is their name being signed on the petition.

I was wondering if anyone else had done some homework on this. So far I sent an email to one person who I could track down.

Here is the petition. The link follows.

"We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effect upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php

[Peregrine]

1. If you are talking about the 32,000 "scientists"

Check out Crock of the Week.

[SpiralHawk]

6. Republicon 'Scientists' = Paid Pharisees

[Lasher]

2. In 2001, Scientific American reported:

Scientific American took a random sample of 30 of the 1,400 signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still agreed with the petition —- one was an active climate researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers – a respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the climatological community.

In a 2005 op-ed in the Hawaii Reporter, Todd Shelly wrote:

In less than 10 minutes of casual scanning, I found duplicate names (Did two Joe R. Eaglemans and two David Tompkins sign the petition, or were some individuals counted twice?), single names without even an initial (Biolchini), corporate names (Graybeal & Sayre, Inc. How does a business sign a petition?), and an apparently phony single name (Redwine, Ph.D.). These examples underscore a major weakness of the list: there is no way to check the authenticity of the names. Names are given, but no identifying information (e.g., institutional affiliation) is provided. Why the lack of transparency?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition

[robdogbucky]

3. Try this website

for more info.


http://ezinearticles.com/?Debunking-the-Oregon-Petition-Project&id=1675285

I found it informative.

[Gabi Hayes]

4. ''How to Talk to a Climate Sceptic''

http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2008/07/how_to_talk_to_a_sceptic.php

[PretzelWarrior]

5. many of the so-called scientists are advanced degree holders in engineering

and other scientists that have absolutely no training in climatology or other disciplines related to climate change theories.

[marmar]

7. I wonder if the Petition has the Exxon logo on it?

:think: