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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 12:50 AM
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Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining: Bad Week For The CT Crowd
Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 12:51 AM by stopbush
Well, as obnoxious as they are, the birthers have managed to shine a bright light on America's obsession with crazy conspiracy theories.

Granted, the birthers have an idiocy and a repulsiveness all their own. But at their heart, they are mirror images of the CTists who aver that man never landed on the moon, or that 9/11 was an inside job by bushco or that JFK was killed by some vast conspiracy that involved everybody from LBJ to the Secret Service to The Mob to the Cubans to the KGB to Whistler's mother. That mirror reflects some common traits that all CTists possess: the inability to separate evidence from fantasy; the twisted belief that the more hard evidence that is presented to refute their CT, the more secret evidence there must be still hidden that would prove their CT; the belief that they and they alone know the "facts" of the case, even when their facts have no evidentiary basis whatsoever; that the more far-fetched a CT, the more likely it is that it is real; and, that a story once considered outlandish can grow in credibility simply due to the fact that it is repeated often enough and loudly enough that normal people begin to think that there must be something to it.

And so this week, as the birthers screamed their idiocies, the rest of the country celebrated the Apollo 11 mission as a factual event, to the dismay (one would imagine) of the Moon Landing Hoax brigade. The Apollo celebration put JFK back in the news, and normal people were treated to a replay of THC's "Beyond Conspiracy" program that simply and effectively put to rest the main talking points of the JFK CT crew.

One wonders: do people like the birthers ever give pause to the other CTists regarding their CT of choice? Do the JFK and 9/11 CTists ever look at the MO of the birthers and think, "geez, that sort of reminds me of me and my CT of choice...and I don't think I like it."

Nah. That would never happen, because the CTists know that they are right in spite of the evidence, whether that evidence is a birth certificate, an autopsy report coupled with ballistics tests or a sound scientific explanation for a building collapse that does not involve controlled demolition.

Still, the birthers are so ridiculous that they may just create that teachable moment in regards to CTs in general. That is, unless the Masons decide to shut down this thread ASAP...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 12:53 AM
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1. Actually here we have a Conspiracy that might FIT the definition of a LEGAL one
The Family

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6120359&mesg_id=6120359

You are going to tell me that this is just a CT and nothing to see here, right?
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 12:56 AM
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2. I think they all want to believe they are Mulder...
tirelessly working to defeat the grand conspiracies of the world, while maintaining a shimmer of "I'm not really paranoid, everybody IS out to get me" to cover their schtick.

:shrug:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 12:57 AM
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3. 9/11 and the Kennedys were inside jobs. n/t
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 01:18 AM
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4. "Anyone who so much as questions a CT is a member"
It's one of those infantile forms of magical thinking, closely aligned with "you disagree with me only because you're being paid off".

And then you get the people who insist they have legal "proof". The Birthers are prime examples.

Of course, prosecutors regularly put the squeeze on people by threatening to charge them with criminal conspiracy, or actually doing so. It's surprising that CTists don't recognize this.

--d!
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 01:37 AM
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8. I find the "magical thinking"is that the elites never collaborate, ever
to plan anything.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 03:58 AM
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9. "....you disagree with me only because you're being paid off. "

I always wondered where those jobs were, actually. I never saw anyone recruiting for one. And how they were advertised---that was a mystery as well!

"Work from the comfort of your home. Insinuate yourself into the membership of Democratic Underground and challenge other members who disagree with our corporation's stated position on the product/service we provide. Fifteen dollars an hour, full time, generous medical/dental. Send resume to PO Box Blah Blah, Anytown, USA. Include copies of posts you have made at other forums. Two weeks vacation and major holidays. Equal Opportunity Employer."

:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 01:18 AM
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5. Apples and meatballs. n/t
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 01:29 AM
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6. The birthers and the 9/11 whackos are basically the same group of people.
The only difference is that the majority of birthers are racist against African-Americans, and the majority of 9/11 whackos are racist against Jews and Arabs. But basically it's all the same bullshit. Hell, just look at their patron saint Alex Jones. He never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like, regardless of whatever political affiliation was pushing it at the time, and all the better if it left non-white people suspect.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 01:31 AM
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7. The basement runneth over n/t
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 04:37 AM
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10. so show us your unassailable evidence that Oswald did it, or join
the ranks of that crazy CT crew yourself

CT as in coincidence theorist

no argument with your other conspiracy theory presentation, but to lump JFK in there is simply idiotic

the frickin US government, for lord's sake, even admitted that is was most likely there was a conspiracy to kill him, even though they got the perps wrong

your willfully arrogant ignorance is amusing

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